0
$\begingroup$

Usually it is said that the Maxwell equation $\vec \nabla . \vec{B}=0$ is solved by introducing the vector potential according to $\vec B=\vec \nabla \times \vec A$.

In principle, we could write the more general decomposition $\vec B=\vec \nabla \times \vec A+\vec \nabla f$ and require $\nabla^2 f=0$, right?

Why is this never done? Is it a particular case of Gauge invariance?

$\endgroup$
6
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ This freedom is already present in the gauge freedom of $A$, so there's no point in writing it as a separate term. $\endgroup$
    – knzhou
    Commented Apr 6, 2017 at 20:27
  • $\begingroup$ Gauge transformations $\vec A\to \vec A+\vec\nabla g$ leave the magnetic field invariant and purely rotational. My question involves a magnetic field which has a gradient term, so its not simply the curl of $\vec A$. $\endgroup$
    – thedude
    Commented Apr 6, 2017 at 22:55
  • $\begingroup$ In other words, suppose I have a vector potential $\vec A$ which produces the magnetic field $\vec B$. Is there another potential which is simply a Gauge transform of $\vec A$ and produces the field $\vec B+\vec\nabla f$? $\endgroup$
    – thedude
    Commented Apr 6, 2017 at 22:57
  • $\begingroup$ No, the point is that the gauge transformation keeps $B$ the same. If you change $B$, you've got a different physical situation. $\endgroup$
    – knzhou
    Commented Apr 6, 2017 at 22:58
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ Oh, I see the real issue. Generally this freedom is removed by boundary conditions. For example, if you're working in $\mathbb{R}^3$ demanding the field vanish quickly at infinity rules out $f$. $\endgroup$
    – knzhou
    Commented Apr 6, 2017 at 23:17

1 Answer 1

0
$\begingroup$

It follows from the fact that $\mathrm{div} B = 0 \iff B = \mathrm{rot} A$, unless you wish to work with some nontrivial manifolds where $dA = 0$ is not the same as $A = dB$.

$\endgroup$
5
  • $\begingroup$ Although I am aware that $dB=0$ should imply $B=dA$, I have difficulty understanding the present situation. If I write $\vec B=\vec\nabla\times \vec A+\vec\nabla f$ and impose $\nabla^2 f=0$, does it not still follow that div$B=0$? $\endgroup$
    – thedude
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 0:37
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, it does. It also follows that $\vec B=\vec\nabla\times \vec A+\vec\nabla f = \vec\nabla\times \vec A_1$ So, presenting solution in your way is just unnecessarily difficult, as presenting solution of x - 2 = 0 as x = 2 + (3 - 3). That is why people usually choose the easiest way. $\endgroup$
    – user108687
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 0:43
  • $\begingroup$ Could you please write $A_1$ explicitly in terms of $A$ and $f$? $\endgroup$
    – thedude
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 0:50
  • $\begingroup$ No, I could not. I can only claim, that such $A_1$ exists. Do you have a problem with understanding that in 3D $dA = 0 \iff A = dB $ is the same as $\mathrm{div} B = 0 \iff B = \mathrm{rot} A$? $\endgroup$
    – user108687
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 1:03
  • $\begingroup$ No, I don't. I have thought some more about it and I'm fine. The fact that $A_1$ does not have an obvious form in terms of $A$ and $f$ was troubling me, but as you say it exists and that's it. Ok. Thanks. $\endgroup$
    – thedude
    Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 1:15

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.