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The square of the Gell-Mann matrices $\lambda_1$, $\lambda_2$, and $\lambda_3$ has the bizarre value $2/3 * I + \lambda_8 / \sqrt{3}$.

Is there a simple way to deduce the result from the fact that $\lambda_8$ is orthogonal to all other $\lambda_n$, and has trace $0$? (And maybe some other property.)

And a similar question: why is $\lambda_3^2 + \lambda_8^2 =4/3 * I$? (This is related to the equally mysterious $\lambda_8^2=2/3 * I - \lambda_8 / \sqrt{3}$.)

Is there a way to deduce these relations without using the specific representation matrices, by showing that the relations are valid generally?

Following the comments, I gather that the bizarre numerical values are due to historical choices of normalisations. But is there a simple way to prove that both $\lambda_8^2$ and $\lambda_3^2$ must be linear combinations of the identity and of $\lambda_8$?

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  • $\begingroup$ How much of this is mysterious? $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 5, 2023 at 22:29
  • $\begingroup$ Hypercharge commutes with isospin, whose quadratic Casimir you got wrong? $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 5, 2023 at 22:41
  • $\begingroup$ Hi @KlausK: So you are asking about choice of convention? $\endgroup$
    – Qmechanic
    Commented Apr 6, 2023 at 1:42
  • $\begingroup$ @Qmechanic No, just the opposite: can one show these relations independently of conventions, independently of the matrix representation? $\endgroup$
    – KlausK
    Commented Apr 6, 2023 at 8:19
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    $\begingroup$ I sent you there already. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 6, 2023 at 19:58

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The standard normalization of Gell-Mann matrices (in the fundamental, triplet, of su(3)) is $$ \operatorname{Tr} (\lambda_a\lambda_b) = 2\delta_{ab}, $$ and all 8 matrices are traceless, i.e. orthogonal to the 3-identity.

But note squares of generators are not in the Lie algebra, but in the universal enveloping algebra, and their properties vary with representation! Further note the "miracle" $$ \sigma_1^2=\sigma_2^2=\sigma_3^2=1\!\!1_2 $$ is strictly a feature of isospin in the doublet, and so 1/3 the value of the respective su(2) Casimir invariant, embedded in the same subspace of su(3). Check this fails for the triplet representation of isospin (in the octet of su(3))!

You are then only talking about diagonal matrices $\lambda_3, \lambda_3^2, \lambda_8, \lambda_8^2, 1\!\!1_3$, (where $\lambda_1^2=\lambda_2^2~(=\lambda_3^2)$ come along for the ride and need not be discussed). You are discussing three mutually orthogonal 3-vectors, $V(\lambda_3),V(\lambda_8), 1\!\!1$ and fussing their normalizations following from above: $$ V(\lambda_3)\cdot V( 1\!\!1)=0,\\ V(\lambda_8)\cdot V( 1\!\!1)=0,\\ V(\lambda_8)\cdot V(\lambda_3)=0 \\ V(\lambda_3^2)\cdot V(\lambda_3)=0,\\ V(\lambda_8)\cdot V(\lambda_3^2)=0 \\ V(\lambda_8^2)\cdot V(\lambda_8^2)=2 \\ V(\lambda_3^2)\cdot V(\lambda_3^2)=2 . $$

It is thus necessary that the two vectors $V(\lambda_3^2)= (1,1,0)^T$ and $V(\lambda_8^2)=(1,1,4)^T/3$ be expressible as linear combinations of the fundamental three such above, actually two, being orthogonal to $V(\lambda_3)$, $$ V(\lambda_3^2) ={2\over 3} 1\!\! 1 +{1\over \sqrt{3} }\lambda_8, \\ V(\lambda_8^2) = {2\over 3} 1\!\! 1 -{1\over \sqrt{3}} \lambda_8, $$ as you confirmed. The 2/3 coefficient of the identity is to align its trace/normalization, 3, with that of the λ matrices. I'm not sure why this should be bizarre.

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