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I need to calculate the reflectivity of a thin film, designed for one wavelength $\lambda_1$, at a different wavelength $\lambda_2$. The challenge is that $\lambda_2 \gg \lambda_1$, for example a factor of 100, so that $d \ll \lambda_2$, ($d$ is the film thickness). For example, would a $d=\lambda/1000$ film still reflect light? And if it would, then what is the refractive index of such thin film? Can I assume that it's the same as for a thicker film? Down to which film thickness would this approximation hold? Is there perhaps something like effective refractive index (as with optical fibres)?

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    $\begingroup$ Generally, the formulae hold well under the condition that the various films are planar and continuous. Your bigger problem may be that the optical constants are likely different, the only question being how different. $\endgroup$
    – Jon Custer
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 13:59
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    $\begingroup$ When the medium is the same on both sides, the phase changes for reflection at both sides are opposite, so for a film much thinner than the wavelength both reflected waves will almost cancel (the "black" part of soap films). $\endgroup$
    – user137289
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 14:00
  • $\begingroup$ whats the formula you are using to calulate reflectivity at a given $\lambda$? $\endgroup$
    – lineage
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 14:34
  • $\begingroup$ And if it would, then what is the refractive index of such thin film? but you just said that the film has been designed for another $\lambda$ Doesn't that mean you have already fixed $\mu$? $\endgroup$
    – lineage
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 14:36

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As @JonCuster said, the formulas for thin film reflection will work fine (almost) regardless of the wavelength. So use the same Fresnel formulas.

The challenge will potentially be finding the correct refractive indices to use for the medium. Do not assume n is constant over such a large wavelength range; it is almost certainly not. Look in references and the literature to find n for your wavelength. Or better yet, compute it yourself from the results of your reflection/transmission measurements!

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    $\begingroup$ refractiveindex.info is a good place to start $\endgroup$
    – EigenDavid
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 15:23
  • $\begingroup$ Say we have blue light $\lambda=400nm$, if the film thickness is $\lambda/1000 = 400pm$ that is less than 1 atomic layer of quartz. Are you sure that Fresnel's formulas are still valid? What is the permittivity of such material? $\endgroup$
    – hyportnex
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 16:10
  • $\begingroup$ Obviously the refractive index will vary with wavelength (dispersion). Is that what you mean? Or do you mean that a ~2.5 um film ($\lambda/4$ for 10 um) would have a different refractive index (at the same wavelength) than a ~5 nm film ($\lambda/4$ for 20 nm), due to some topological effects? $\endgroup$
    – texnic
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 19:09
  • $\begingroup$ @hyportnex What is an atomic layer of quartz? Note that 0.4 nm is still more than 1atom. $\endgroup$
    – my2cts
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 19:18
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    $\begingroup$ @texnic when you’re using the Fresnel formulas, you’ll plug in wavelength ($\lambda$), the film thickness ($d$), and refractive index ($n(\lambda)$, which is a function of wavelength). Assume the refractive index is constant with film thickness (which is more-or-less accurate). $\endgroup$
    – Gilbert
    Commented Dec 19, 2019 at 19:23

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