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A great question I enjoy bringing up is why are things, in general, "darker when wet". This applies to porous and granular materials like wetted stone, paper, sand etc. It also comes up in painting where "oiling out", applying a thin layer of medium over a dry painting, darkens most colors and makes them more saturated. There are many good explanations of "darker when wet" as, essentially, refraction index matching so that light has a longer stochastic path length though the absorptive medium (a "deeper" U turn).

Some paints are actually darker when dry, the effect doesn't seem to be as strong but it is certainly true. Acrylics generally dry darker: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/acrylic/acrylic-painting/

Some watercolors: https://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/cds.html

And this seems to happen in oils too. I am in the middle of a discussion right now on how this, according to some accounts, happens more in mixtures of titanium white. Note pure titanium white seems to be the same value wet or dry; values of mixtures seem to shift more with it.

I can explain acrylics in a handwavy way, since the polymer emulsion probably scatters more than the film => drying reduces scattering and makes colors darker. I can't explain watercolor shifts or oil. In those cases when the medium (water or oil) leaves the paintlayer, the light should hit the particles more directly and there should be a greater difference in refractive index => more scattering => lighter color.

Apart from just jazz hands of non-idealities, does anyone have a good explanation as to how paint might dry darker? It would seem that dry and darker paint would somehow be making the light spend more time in the absorptive medium...I can't explain it in a way that would be consistent with why things are darker when wet. Is there another factor that isn't being accounted for in terms of refractive index changes across mediums?

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  • $\begingroup$ Probably something to do with porosity that influences surface roughness. For example the lacquers for oil paintings come in both matte and gloss, where the matte has increased scatter (either form particulate or surface roughness). $\endgroup$ – PhysicsDave Nov 16 '18 at 22:35
  • $\begingroup$ The visual impact of varnishes on paintings does indeed seem to be due to surface roughness: researchgate.net/publication/… But I am pretty sure that "raw" paint layers are generally rougher than ones that are matte varnished, as varnishes generally darken. It is hard to believe that wet oil paint would be rougher (=> scatter more => look brighter) than dry oil paint. $\endgroup$ – mittimithai Nov 17 '18 at 1:52
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When something is wet, it has a layer of water that cause TIR (total internal reflection) and some rays get trapped in the water layer And this cause the object looks like a little darker.

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  • $\begingroup$ A thin film of water over an absorbing media will reflect reflected/scattered light from that absorbing media resulting in more interactions with the absorbing media making the media appear darker. That's an explanation for darker when wet, the question is about darker when dry. $\endgroup$ – mittimithai Dec 27 '18 at 19:50

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