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I am currently working through Griffiths' Introductory to Elementary Particle Physics and I'm a little confused about a particle's spin/flavor wavefunctions. As a specific example, I've attached Griffths solution to the proton's wavefunction, and the formula he used to get it.

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I understand the solution, but what confuses me is the ordering for the antisymmetric spins/flavors. As an example, looking at the first term, wouldn't the flavors still be antisymmetric in particles 1 and 2 if we just switched the udu and duu terms. We would get a different final solution for the wavefunction now due to terms cancelling out after expanding.

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Note that Griffiths is very careful to match each of these terms, $$udu ~~\Leftrightarrow~ \uparrow \downarrow \uparrow,$$and if you match both terms at once you get two sign flips: $$(\downarrow \uparrow \uparrow - \uparrow \downarrow \uparrow)\otimes (duu - udu) = (-1)^2 (\uparrow \downarrow \uparrow - \downarrow \uparrow \uparrow)\otimes(udu - duu) $$and since $(-1)^2 = 1$ this is a non-issue.

So the real question you're asking is, why do we have to match these terms? And that's a good question and it has to do with how the 3 terms all play together (a sign flip on any individual term does nothing for consistency or inconsistency).

So the expression takes the form of "we're going to insert some $u_\uparrow$ state into the twice-antisymmetrized 2-quark state $$d_\downarrow u_\uparrow - d_\uparrow u_\downarrow - u_\downarrow d_\uparrow + u_\uparrow d_\downarrow,$$because we know we have two $\uparrow$ spins and two $u$ quarks and so one of these up-quarks has to be in the spin-up state." (Note that under $1^\text{st}\leftrightarrow2^\text{nd}$ interchange the above is in fact symmetric, that last term being exactly the first term with the two particles switching places.) Now the expression chooses to symmetrically insert this $u_\uparrow$ quark in the first position, the second position, and the third position, so that the result will still be symmetric here and will become antisymmetric after correcting for color charge.

What you're proposing by flipping the sign of the first term, therefore, is not symmetrically inserting this $u_\uparrow$ quark in each of the three spots, but inserting it in the first place with a 180-degree phase shift. And that naturally will not be properly symmetric here or antisymmetric afterwards.

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  • $\begingroup$ Ahh I understand now. Ya I was definitely confused about the relationship between the 3 terms. Thank you very much for your help. $\endgroup$
    – madap
    Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 18:47
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Your text, with which I am not familiar, may have done some of its readers a disservice by pulling its punches at the bottom line of your formula, trying to save space. Writing down the permutation terms nets you the full proton wavefunction: $$ \frac{1}{\sqrt{18}} ~ (2 u\uparrow ~ u\uparrow ~ d\downarrow - u\uparrow ~ u\downarrow ~ d\uparrow -u\downarrow ~ u\uparrow ~ d\uparrow \\ +2 u\uparrow ~ d\downarrow ~ u\uparrow - u\downarrow ~ d\uparrow ~ u\uparrow-u\uparrow ~ d\uparrow ~ u\downarrow \\ + 2d\downarrow ~u\uparrow ~ u\uparrow - d\uparrow ~u\downarrow ~ u\uparrow - d\uparrow ~u\uparrow ~ u\downarrow ). $$ You may verify directly, by inspection!, that this is fully symmetric under interchange of the 1-2 quarks, and also the 2-3 quarks, and also the 3-1 quarks. Since the positions, 1,2,3, are placeholders for color indices, which are antisymmetrized ("off the stage"), all quarks, like bona-fide fermions are fully antisymmetrized among themselves. Confirm this is a unique composition configuration for the spin up proton state.

The full symmetry of the above wavefunction is an illustration of the appeal that the (Gürsey-Radicati-Sakita, 1964) flavor-spin SU(6) has among workers in the field: this is just a component of the 56 irrep of this "auxiliary group", which is a fully symmetric representation, in sharp contrast with the representations of spin SU(2), flavor SU(3), and its particular subgroup SU(2) (isospin). See below.


Your possible confusion is underlain by the messiness of the various pieces, which sudoku-like, conspired to yield this simple answer, which might illustrate for you the transformative mystique this structure had in the field half a century ago when Gell-Mann revealed it to the world... there was method in its madness, and thought about in the right language, it made sense, but not the way it was anticipated for several decades.

What actually happens is that the wavefunction is of mixed symmetry in spin space and flavor space (eightfold way or isopspin, here), all the while being symmetric in the combination of these two. In fact, the respective component reps are reducible (but as you saw above, they conspire to produce pieces of the simple irreducible rep above---this is the point of generalization, the "grand synthesis as MGM used to put it.)

Specifically, when you look at the 1-2 particle interchanges in (5.62), $\psi_{12}$(spin) is antisymmetric (a spin singlet composed with a spin doublet for the 3rd quark); but it is multiplied by a flavor antisymmetric $\psi_{12}$(isopin) to yield an interchange symmetric piece.

Behold: under this same interchange, the other two pieces, in very different reps of spin and isospin rotate into each other, to net you symmetry, as you saw above, namely $$\psi_{23}(s)\psi_{23}(f) + \psi_{13}(s)\psi_{13}(f) \leftrightarrow \psi_{13}(s)\psi_{13}(f) +\psi_{23}(s)\psi_{23}(f) . $$ Their suitable pieces fit into spin triplets and isotriplets! (Embedded in flavor SU(3) this would involve the mixed symmetry octet 8 of baryons: that's why it has this funny Γ-shaped Young tableau, in case you are familiar with the symmetry accounting these provide.)

There is no freedom to adjust signs among the various components all the while maintaining the complete symmetry among 1,2, & 3.


Side remark (formal nitpick): Since no strange quarks are involved, the subgroup of SU(6) in question is actually merely SU(4) (Wigner 1937), in whose symmetric 20 representation the above proton wavefunction also belongs. Under the spin x isospin subgroup of it, $SU(2)\times SU(2)$, ${\mathbf 20}=({\mathbf 2},{\mathbf 2})\oplus({\mathbf 4},{\mathbf 4}) $, where the first term is the proton-neutron isodoublet, spin-doublet, one of whose 4 states this wavefunction represents; and the second is the Δ baryon, spin-quartet isoquartet in the eightfold way baryon decuplet.

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  • $\begingroup$ Now I took Murray's "Advanced Topics" seminar, and I think he would be happy that you left George Zweig off this list of quark (or ace) creators, but I think he deserves a mention. BTW, when I got to grad school there was a crap car with a vanity plate "KWARKS", and though: wow, what a nerd. Then I get to my office and look out the window: an absolute beater Subaru with vanity plate "QUARKS". I was like "Nerd!". I look later and the Subaru is gone. The parking spot say on it "Reserved for Murray Gell-Mann"...so I was "OK, he can have the plate." $\endgroup$
    – JEB
    Commented Oct 2 at 13:17
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    $\begingroup$ George Z cooked up a substantially different (superior?) scheme which we now identify with Murray's. I had a similar experience viewing RPFs Chevy Van with the "funny diagrams" on it, at my first Physics Dept picnic. When, next year, he offered me a ride in it, I had to gulp and learn to suspect first impressions... $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 2 at 14:07
  • $\begingroup$ Sorry, Dodge Van. It grew a talismanic reputation in years to come... $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 2 at 21:08

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