I have the following problem:
A rope is wound round a fixed cylinder of radius $r$ so as to make n complete turns. The coefficient of friction between the rope and cylinder is $\mu$. Show that if one end of the rope is held by a force $F$, a force $Fe^{2\pi n\mu}$ must be applied to the other end to produce slipping.
I have seen this previous question: Rope wrapped around a cylinder
and followed up the Wikipedia article on the Capstan equation. However there are still several things I am stuck on.
My initial attempt
Before I tried to find help on this question, I thought that I could just say that the total 'downwards' force, which is $F+F'$, $F'$ being the applied force, can be thought of as being distributed over the tops of the rope on the cylinder. This would give me that the maximum normal force of any point is
$(F+F')/n$
So that
$Maximum frictional force, F_r=\mu \frac{F+F'}{n}$
Following this through so that for slipping I have $F'-F>F_r$
I get that $F'>\frac{1+\mu}{1-\mu}F$
I think my approach here is wrong because:
-I got a too large value for the maximum frictional force as I overestimated the maximum normal force by thinking that the normal force acts only at the bits of rope passing over the top of the cylinder.
After looking at the Capstan equation
It had not occured to me to use calculus, and I am still confused as to where infintesimals are needed for use in a question and where you can go without... Any insight into this would be very helpful
More specifically to the problem, there are two things that I can't wrap my head around.
The normal force at any point on the cylinder is equal and opposite to the component of the force/tension in the rope that acts radially towards the centre of the circle. The tension at each point in the string is $F'-F$, however the tension at each infintesimal point of string is also acting ALONG A TANGENT to the cylinder, therefore it has no component radially towards the centre of the cylinder. Therefore I get that the normal force, and thus also frictional force on the string is 0 at each point around the cylinder? This must be wrong.
When I am resolving vertically so that the total downwards tension in the string (and so upwards force from the cylinder) is equal to the total downwards force ($F'+F$), I also find that since the tension is acting tangentially to the cylinder everywhere, at the top of the cylinder there is no component of the tension acting vertically downwards. So where I thought all of the downwards force of the cylinder could be concentrated there is actually no downwards force?