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I have a question about Schmid’s law for an arbitrary stress state. I found conflicting expressions and I would like to know which one is correct.

  • $\boldsymbol{s}$: slip direction

  • $\boldsymbol{n}$: slip plane normal

  • $\boldsymbol{m}$: Schmid or slip tensor

  • $\boldsymbol{\sigma}$: Cauchy stress tensor

  • $\tau$: shear stress

The first expression (1) I found is the following: $$\mathbf{m} = \boldsymbol{s} \otimes \boldsymbol{n} $$ $$ \tau = \boldsymbol{m}:\boldsymbol{\sigma} $$

The second expression (2) I found is the following: $$\mathbf{m} = \frac{1}{2}(\boldsymbol{s} \otimes \boldsymbol{n} + \boldsymbol{n} \otimes \boldsymbol{s}) $$ $$ \tau = \boldsymbol{\sigma}:\boldsymbol{m} $$

It seems like $\boldsymbol{m}$ in the first expression would equate $\boldsymbol{m}$ in the second one if $\boldsymbol{m}$ would be symmetric, but as far as I understand, this is not possible. I do not understand how the second expression is correct. Is the second expression correct? Why?

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Thank you very much for your help.

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  • $\begingroup$ Why not specify the sources, so people can consider the context, underlying definitions, assumptions, and (if warranted) credibility? Equations on their own are near-meaningless without this background. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 22:03
  • $\begingroup$ Sources added. Thank you for your comment. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 22:15

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The Schmid tensor, as you've mentioned, is not symmetric in general. However, the Cauchy stress $\boldsymbol{\sigma}$ is always symmetric. Moreover, for any 2nd order tensors $\boldsymbol{B}$ and $\boldsymbol{A}$ such that $\boldsymbol{A} =\boldsymbol{A}^T$, you can show that $\boldsymbol{A}:\boldsymbol{B} = \boldsymbol{A}:\text{sym}\boldsymbol{B}$. Thus, $$ \begin{align} \tau & = \boldsymbol{\sigma}:\left( \boldsymbol{s} \otimes \boldsymbol{n} \right) \\\\ & = \boldsymbol{\sigma}:\text{sym}\left( \boldsymbol{s} \otimes \boldsymbol{n} \right) \end{align}$$

Some authors pre-emptively define the Schmid tensor to be symmetric. They simply do the above operation ahead of time. I prefer to keep them in their normal form (i.e., $ \boldsymbol{s} \otimes \boldsymbol{n} $) until a specific computation arises.

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  • $\begingroup$ And to be explicit $\frac{1}{2}(\mathbf{s}\otimes\mathbf{n} + \mathbf{n}\otimes\mathbf{s})$ is the symmetric part of the tensor $\mathbf{s}\otimes\mathbf{n} $ $\endgroup$
    – basics
    Commented Sep 28, 2023 at 19:09
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, thanks. Should've put that in to begin with. $\endgroup$
    – EMsd
    Commented Sep 28, 2023 at 19:10
  • $\begingroup$ Upvoting.......[dots to fill min n. of chars] $\endgroup$
    – basics
    Commented Sep 28, 2023 at 19:12

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