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Suppose that you have two force vectors, $\vec{F_{1}}$ and $\vec{F_{2}}$ in polar coordinates such that they have equal magnitude and opposite angles, $\theta$ as defined below.

$$ \vec{F_{1}} = r\hat{r}+\frac{\pi}{4}\hat{\theta}$$ $$ \vec{F_{2}} = r\hat{r}+\frac{5\pi}{4}\hat{\theta}$$

We can assume from symmetry that the total force, $\vec{F_{Total}} = 0$.

Is there a way to show this using only polar coordinates and without resorting to cartesian coordinates?

To state this another way for future readers: If I have an object at the origin of the coordinate system and two forces are applied one at 45 degrees and one at 225 degrees the net force on the object will be zero if the magnitudes of the forces are the same

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    $\begingroup$ $\vec{F}_{Total}$ is not equal zero $\endgroup$
    – Eli
    Commented Oct 23, 2021 at 6:15
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    $\begingroup$ 'r' has units of length, 'theta' is unitless, so you cannot add those items. The (+) in those formulae are suggestive, but not expressive, of the situation. $\endgroup$
    – Whit3rd
    Commented Oct 23, 2021 at 8:50
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    $\begingroup$ You probably meant something like $F=re^{\frac{\pi}{4}i}$ or $re^{\frac{5\pi}{4}i}$, but this can just be expressed as $\vec{F}_1 = |F|\cos(\pi/4)\hat{r} + |F|\sin(\pi/4)\hat{\theta}$ and $\vec{F}_2 = |F|\cos(5\pi/4)\hat{r} + |F|\sin(5\pi/4)\hat{\theta}$, in which case they do, quite obviously, add to zero. $\endgroup$
    – gmz
    Commented Oct 23, 2021 at 13:24
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    $\begingroup$ see this link, I think this was already discussed somehow. math.stackexchange.com/questions/1365622/… $\endgroup$
    – Samson
    Commented Oct 23, 2021 at 17:02
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    $\begingroup$ The OP means the same thing that Griffiths means. There is nothing wrong with the question. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 23, 2021 at 17:58

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Yes, it is possible to add vectors without a Cartesian representation, i.e. represented by two-dimensional r/theta coordinates. One simply can draw an 'r' length line segment in the 'theta' direction, and, at its apex, append a second 's' length vector in the 'theta2' direction. Drafting machines like this with protractor and scale components are an easy way to accomplish this, and make it easy to decode the resultant sum.

As for doing it numerically, I'd stick with Cartesian coordinate transformation. It's not hard.

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The force components are:

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\begin{align*} &\b F_1=r\,\b e_r+\frac{\pi}{4}\b e_\theta\\ &\b e_r=\begin{bmatrix} \cos(\theta) \\ \sin(\theta) \\ \end{bmatrix}\quad, \b e_\theta=\begin{bmatrix} -\sin(\theta) \\ \cos(\theta) \\ \end{bmatrix} \quad ,\b e_r\perp\b e_\theta \end{align*}

with $~\theta\mapsto -\theta$

\begin{align*} &\b F_2=r\,\b e_r+\frac{5\pi}{4}\b e_\theta\\ &\b e_r\mapsto\begin{bmatrix} \cos(\theta) \\ -\sin(\theta) \\ \end{bmatrix}\quad, \b e_\theta\mapsto\begin{bmatrix} \sin(\theta) \\ \cos(\theta) \\ \end{bmatrix} \quad ,\b e_r\perp\b e_\theta \end{align*}

thus $~\b F_1-\b F_2\ne \b 0$

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