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This is an experimental observation on a chromatographic column. I am trying to reconcile two observations, one with gases and one with liquids. Assume a narrow tube packed with very small 2-3 micron particles made of silica.

When we pump solvents such as methanol/water (from the left, inlet) at high flow rates, say 5 mL/min, the back-pressure is very high ~ 500 bar. The right end of the column heats up. One can feel that outlet fluid is quite warm. The outlet of the column is at atmospheric pressure. The inlet to outlet temperature difference can be as high as 10 C. In the literature it is wrongly called frictional heating as if the fluid has warmed up by rubbing against very small silica particles. I met a specialist, he said it is the adiabatic expansion of a compressed liquid which leads to heating up and it has nothing to do with friction of the moving liquid with particles.

Now, gases can also be used as a mobile phase in the same packed column, e.g. pressurized carbon dioxide. This time the right end of the column is almost freezing, as expected. The pressurized gases are expanding and the gases cool down.

The question is why do compressed liquids warm up when they are allowed to expand, unlike gases? Thanks.

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    $\begingroup$ Are you familiar with the property of a fluid called "viscosity?" $\endgroup$ Commented May 26, 2019 at 0:15
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    $\begingroup$ I am glad you didn't start with "Elementary, my dear Watson!" $\endgroup$
    – ACR
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    $\begingroup$ I don’t understand. What are you saying? $\endgroup$ Commented May 26, 2019 at 0:44
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    $\begingroup$ I was intrigued by the way you asked if I were familiar with the fluid property called "viscosity". Of course, everyone is. If your point is viscous heating, this is exactly what that expert was refuting. He said that the heating of the liquid has nothing to do with friction of the liquid with the particles. P.S. "Elementary, my dear Watson" is a Sherlock Holmes' dialogue to his friend Dr. Watson, when he solved a difficult case and wanted to explain it to him. $\endgroup$
    – ACR
    Commented May 26, 2019 at 1:07
  • $\begingroup$ Empirical observation: Hydraulic oil, when moving through an orifice or other close tolerance under pressure (2000-6000 psi) will warm the valve body noticeably. I believe this is from friction, not expansion of the fluid. $\endgroup$
    – Floyd Kehl
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I hope you weren't offended by my comment. In a forum like this, people with all different backgrounds ask questions, and I was unaware of yours.

I don't know who the "expert" was, but he was wrong. The cause of the temperature rise was indeed viscous heating. Viscous "friction" is not the same as dry friction between the liquid with the particles. It is analogous to the heating that occurs in a viscous fluid when it is stirred. The mechanical energy of stirring is dissipated by the viscous behavior of the fluid, and converted to internal energy of the fluid, which translates into a temperature rise. This is exactly how Joule demonstrated the equivalence between mechanical work and increase in internal energy.

In the case of flowing a liquid through a packed column, the mechanical energy loss associated with viscous dissipation in the fluid flow within the pore channels of the packing produces an increase in the internal energy of the exit fluid. This is also a well-known phenomenon in viscous polymer flow through processing equipment, such as transfer lines, spinnerets, and other dies. The rough rule of thumb is a 2 degree temperature rise for every 1000 psi in pressure drop.

In your packed column, application of the open system (control volume) version of the first law of thermodynamics to the flow through the column yields: $$\Delta h = C\Delta T+v\Delta P=0$$where h is the enthalpy per unit mass of the fluid, C is the specific heat capacity, v is the specific volume and P is the pressure. Viscosity causes the fluid pressure to decrease between the entrance and the exit of the packed bed. The corresponding viscous temperature rise of the fluid is: $$\Delta T=-\frac{v\Delta P}{C}$$where $\Delta P$ is negative.

In the simple case of flow in a tube, the viscous flow equations are observed to accurately predict the amount of viscous dissipation and the corresponding pressure drop. And the above equation is then observed to accurately predict the temperature rise of the fluid.

In the experiments you described, there were two phenomena occurring simultaneously: expansion cooling and viscous heating. In the case of a liquid, the viscous heating wins out over the expansion cooling because a liquid is nearly incompressible, so it can't do any expansion work to cause cooling. In the case of an ideal gas, the expansion cooling exactly cancels the viscous heating, and there is no change in internal energy or temperature. In the case of a real gas, in most cases, the expansion cooling typically wins out (by a little) over the viscous heating, so there is usually a small amount of temperature decrease.

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  • $\begingroup$ Your equation is the same as what others have derived. The Joule experiment is a nice reminder. I did that two decades ago. In ultrahigh pressure liquid chromatography, deltaP is 5000 - 10000 psi. I gather that gentleman must be wrong based on the reasoning aboe. He is a respected figure and we had a chat on this topic. He said the literature is spreading this misconception. It is just adiabatic expansion of a compressed liquid (at the outlet)- any compressed liquid will heat up if allowed to expand. Your thesis is that an expanding liquid would cool, if viscous heating were absent. $\endgroup$
    – ACR
    Commented May 26, 2019 at 2:59
  • $\begingroup$ I agree with your point. "I hope you weren't offended by my comment. In a forum like this, people with all different backgrounds ask questions, and I was unaware of yours.". No problem. This happens in public forums where full profile cannot be shared. $\endgroup$
    – ACR
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    $\begingroup$ Your assessment of what I'm saying is correct. If a compressed liquid expands, it does work on its surroundings, so its internal energy must decrease (not increase). This will be accompanied by a drop in temperature. $\endgroup$ Commented May 26, 2019 at 11:24
  • $\begingroup$ I am pretty confused why that expert would say that the liquid is heating up by adiabatic expansion. Most things cool down if adiabatically expanding - the only thing that comes to my mind is water between 0°C and 4°C, which might warm up if you reduce outside pressure because of the temperature anomaly of H2O. I really doubt that this is what's at work there though. $\endgroup$
    – toolforger
    Commented May 26, 2019 at 15:23
  • $\begingroup$ Please provide a reference where this "expert" says this in the peer reviewed literature. $\endgroup$ Commented May 26, 2019 at 16:10
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I work with ammonia, so I can speak to that. The liquid gives up its heat as the pressure drops. You may see a slight spike, but the temp will go down as soon as the heat is released.

" I met a specialist, he said it is the adiabatic expansion of a compressed liquid which leads to heating up and it has nothing to do with friction of the moving liquid with particles." I think you or your expert may have been confused about this term or at least I am confused as you have to put work into the liquid to cause it to heat up. Work in this case is the compression.

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