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I have a system where there is a particle placed in each of the minima of the potential $$U(x)=\beta(x^2-\alpha^2)^2.$$ The particles are also connected by a massless spring where the equilibrium length is the distance from one minimum to another.

The potential about small oscillations at $\pm\alpha$ is $U(x)=4\alpha^2 \beta (x\mp \alpha)^2$.

When writing down the Lagrangian, can I pick either of the two potentials or does it matter which one I pick? I'm going off the assumption that there must be only 1 Lagrangian for this system, not 2.

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Just write down the Lagrangian for the full $U(x)$ and spring system. For the second paragraph, I would advise giving those different names $U_{appr}$. You can write down the equations of motion without approximation. But solving them is a separate matter.

So

$$ \mathcal{L} = \frac{1}{2} m_1 \dot{x}_1^2 + \frac{1}{2} m_2 \dot{x}_2^2 - \beta (x_1^2 -a^2)^2 - \beta (x_2^2 -a^2)^2 - \frac{1}{2} k (x_2 - x_1 - 2a)^2\\ \frac{d}{dt} \frac{d\mathcal{L}}{d\dot{x_1}} - \frac{d\mathcal{L}}{dx_1} = 0\\ \frac{d}{dt} \frac{d\mathcal{L}}{d\dot{x_2}} - \frac{d\mathcal{L}}{dx_2} = 0\\ $$

You get the equations of motion for each of them. You should look for a solution that has

$$ x_1 \approx -a + \epsilon y_1 + O(\epsilon^2)\\ x_2 \approx a + \epsilon y_2 + O(\epsilon^2 )\\ $$

Plug this approximation in to the equations of motion and keep only up to order $\epsilon$. Try solving that instead.

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  • $\begingroup$ Are you sure about that spring potential energy term? Expanding it does not yield the same thing as $\frac{1}{2}k(-x_1 - \alpha)^2+\frac{1}{2}k(x_2 + \alpha)^2$ $\endgroup$
    – loltospoon
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 2:24
  • $\begingroup$ @loltospoon I thought you want the particles in each well and then further to be connected by a spring. So 3 pieces as pulling $x_1$ to $-a$, $x_2$ to $-a$ and $x_2 - x_1$ to be close to $2a$. $\endgroup$
    – AHusain
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 2:28
  • $\begingroup$ Only 1 particle per well. And yes they are connected by a spring. Total # of particles for the entire system is 2. $\endgroup$
    – loltospoon
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 2:29
  • $\begingroup$ @loltospoon typo in comment, but I still don't know why you made that guess in first comment. That would be if you could approximate the spring connecting the two as springs tying them down to the well. But that's not the case. $\endgroup$
    – AHusain
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 2:33
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    $\begingroup$ You don't have to find the solution to the coupled DiffEqs, but that is a good exercise anyway. $\endgroup$
    – AHusain
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 3:51
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Revised Answer

This problem is simple enough that you can determine the frequencies of the normal modes quite easily. The Lagrange Method is not necessary.

The 2 minima are mirror images of each other. There will be 2 normal modes : the particles moving anti-symmetrically in the same direction, and symmetrically in opposite directions. In both cases you can ignore the other particle : in the anti-symmetric case because the spring remains relaxed, in the symmetric case because the spring acts as though fixed at the line of symmetry.

Any other small oscillation is a linear combination of these 2 modes.

For small displacements $z=x-a$ from equilibrium, the potential $U(x)$ is parabolic - ie $U(z) \approx \frac12kz^2$. This applies for all potentials, including the spring - exact in this case.

For small displacements from equilibrium at the local minimum, the potential well is equivalent to a spring of constant $k_1$. The restoring force on the particle is $F(z)=-\frac{dU(z)}{dz}$ to 1st order in extension $z$, evaluated at $z=0$. Compare the result with Hooke's Law $F=-k_1 z$ to find the spring constant $k_1$. Then you can immediately write down the angular frequency and period of small oscillations.

In the 2nd case you have 2 springs in parallel; the combined spring constant is $k_2=k_1+2K$, where $K$ is the constant for the given spring. Note that for a given tension in a spring the extension at either end is half the total extension. You are effectively cutting the spring in half. It takes twice the force to produce the same extension in half the spring, so the spring constant is doubled, not halved.

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  • $\begingroup$ So do you mean that if there are small oscillations about one minimum we must take the other particle to be fixed? $\endgroup$
    – loltospoon
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 19:32
  • $\begingroup$ Ahhh ok, conceptually, what you're saying makes sense. But how do I set up the characteristic equation in order to solve this? Most examples I see convert their Lagrangians to matrix form and then solve for eigenvalues and eigenvectors, but I'm clueless as to how to set up the matrix form Lagrangrian... $\endgroup$
    – loltospoon
    Commented Mar 20, 2017 at 19:55

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