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I have been using results from this paper in calculations. In sections 2.4 and 3.4 they perform a canonical transformation into new coordinates consisting of constants of motion. They then construct an SL$(2, \mathbb{R})$ algebra that acts on these coordinates.

The canonical transformation for Schwarzschild $(r, \phi, p_r, p_\phi) \rightarrow (T, \Phi, H, L)$ is given by \begin{align} d T &= \frac{Hr^4}{\left(r^2-2Mr\right)\sqrt{\mathcal{R}(r)}}d r \\ d \Phi &= d\phi - \frac{L}{\sqrt{\mathcal{R}(r)}} d r. \end{align} where \begin{equation}\label{eq:HamSchw} H = \sqrt{\left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)\left(\frac{p_\phi^2}{r^2}+ \left(1-\frac{2M}{r}\right)p_r^2\right).} \end{equation}

We can then define a generator \begin{equation} H_0 = (H- \tilde{H}(L)) T \end{equation} where $\tilde{H}(L)$ is the Hamiltonian of the null bound geodesics \begin{equation} \tilde{H}(L) = |L|/ \sqrt{27M^2}. \end{equation} Now the number of orbits for an unbound geodesic can be calculated through the winding number $w = \Delta \phi /(2\pi)$. It can be shown that $\Delta \phi$ in the limit of bound null geodesics is given by $$\Delta \phi = \ln(R_{\text{min}}^{-2})$$ where $R$ is defined through $r = 3M(1+R)$. In this case $$\{w, H_0\} = 1/(2\pi).$$

In section 2.4 the authors claim that the group action on the observable $w$ increases it to $w+1$ (see eq. (2.71)). I am confused on how this group action is defined, as I am not used to their conventions. How is the group action here defined in terms of Poisson brackets?

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    $\begingroup$ Please show the relevant sections of the paper so we don’t have to do a research project just to read your question. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 19 at 3:43
  • $\begingroup$ @MattHanson I made an update :) $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 19 at 9:39

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This should be familiar to you from the first example of generators of transformations we usually encounter: The bracket between position $q$ and momentum $p$ is constant as $\{q,p\} = 1$, and momentum generates translations $q\mapsto q + c, c\in \mathbb{R}$ as the corresponding one-parameter group action.

You have a constant Poisson bracket $\{w,H_0\}$, hence $H_0$ likewise generates translations $w\mapsto w+ c$ in $w$ as the corresponding group.

Both of these are special cases of the general idea that for any phase space function $f$, the group action generated by it on any other phase space function $g$ is simply given by $\partial_\phi (g\circ\exp(\phi f)) = \{g, f\}$ where $\exp(\phi f), \phi \in \mathbb{R}$ is the flow of the Hamiltonian vector field of $f$. See also this answer of mine.

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  • $\begingroup$ But then I do not see how the group action leads to $w \rightarrow w+1$ if the group action is simply the Poisson bracket... I'm probably misunderstanding though $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20 at 17:23
  • $\begingroup$ @Geigercounter The group action is not the Poisson bracket, the Poisson bracket is the infinitesimal version of the group action. The group action has a parameter $\phi$ so that $w(\phi)$ is what it does to $w$, and $\partial_\phi w(\phi) = \{w,H_0\}$ (this is more or less the definition of the flow/group action). The solution to the differential equation $\partial_\phi w(\phi) = 1$ with initial condition $w(0) = w$ is $w(\phi) = w + \phi$. $\endgroup$
    – ACuriousMind
    Commented Aug 20 at 18:21
  • $\begingroup$ Yes but what is the particular formula to compute this? In some references I have found for example $$ e^{-\xi A}B e^{\xi A} \equiv \sum_n \frac{(-\xi)^n}{n!}\text{ad}^n_A B, \qquad \text{ad}_A B \equiv -\{A,B\}$$ for the group action of $A$ on $B$ $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20 at 18:42
  • $\begingroup$ @Geigercounter That's for linear operators on a vector space. In this case you have a phase space (which does not necessarily have a vector space structure) and you compute the flow of the vector field by solving - as I already said - the differential equation $\partial_\phi w = \{ w, H_0 \}$ with initial condition $w(0) = w$. Note that solving the equations of motion $\partial_t f = \{f, H\}$ for $H$ the Hamiltonian is just a special case of it and you don't have any "particular formula" to solve arbitrary equations of motion either, do you? $\endgroup$
    – ACuriousMind
    Commented Aug 20 at 20:38
  • $\begingroup$ I think I am getting more confused. You said above that the group action is not the Poisson bracket, yet here you say that the group action is give by $\partial_\phi w = \{w, H_0\}$ (with an initial condition)? Are you simply saying that the group action is the same as the action of the generator and solving this equation? I then don't see how this constrains the constant shift of $w \rightarrow w+c$ to $w \rightarrow w+1$ $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20 at 22:33

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