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QUESTION CONTEXT: The universe is roughly 14B years while its diameter 93B light years, making radius 46.5B ly. If I understand correctly if we froze everything, go on the one side, then go to the other by the speed of light while everything else would be frozen, it would take us 93B ly. From the spectator POV however, the Big Bang happened 'only' 14B years ago.

Is this caused by time dilation/relativity of time of observer to moving objects or spacetime expansion and

  • if the former is true, then no two particles in universe ever moved relative to each other FTL, right?
  • if the latter is true, how is that exactly different to two objects moving FTL to each other (with omitted relative time compensation)?
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    $\begingroup$ Possible duplicates: physics.stackexchange.com/q/26549/2451 and links therein. $\endgroup$
    – Qmechanic
    Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 12:50
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    $\begingroup$ Does this answer your question? Why is the observable universe so big? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 13:18
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    $\begingroup$ Thanks for the link (if I'm correct both are to the same question). It does answer my question partially. After reading the top answers I'm confused about the universe "stretching" FTL. It seems to me that space and particle in it is same as vehicle and person in it. Again we can't move FTL even if vehicle "stretched" or "shifted" itself speed of light and we moved extra speed in same direction, because related to other observers time dilation would occur. So I have basically the same question, but it's framed in other context. I updated my question accordingly. $\endgroup$
    – eXPRESS
    Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 14:45
  • $\begingroup$ What do the abbreviations POV and FTL mean? ("point of view" and "faster than light" I suppose...) $\endgroup$
    – Quillo
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    $\begingroup$ @Quillo That is correct $\endgroup$
    – eXPRESS
    Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 15:50

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It is more or less caused by time dilation, yes.

Even in special relativity, with no spacetime curvature, there's no limit on how quickly two things can recede in terms of proper time. If two objects start at rest and then head off in opposite directions at $.99c$ for one second as measured by onboard clocks and then decelerate to their original speeds, they'll be about 14 light seconds apart at the end.

You can make a special-relativistic toy big bang model by having a bunch of objects move inertially away from a common starting point at many different speeds. They all recede from each other at less than $c$ if you calculate their speeds as $dx/dt$ where $x$ and $t$ are inertial coordinates. But if you calculate separation per proper time, there's no upper limit. This notion of "separation per proper time" is just not the kind of speed that is limited to $c$ in special (or general) relativity.

This toy model is actually a special case of the standard cosmological model (FLRW); it's the zero-density or zero-gravity limit, sometimes called the Milne cosmology, and it has "superluminal" recession speeds in the sense normally used in cosmology.

if the former is true,

(it is)

then no two particles in universe ever moved relative to each other FTL, right?

Locally, there is no superluminal relative motion. On a larger scale, it generally doesn't make sense to compare speeds because of spacetime curvature. But "superluminal" expansion at the cosmological scale has nothing to do with curvature as such, contrary to popular belief. In the flat-spacetime limit (the Milne cosmology), the "superluminal" cosmological expansion speeds are still there, even though there's also a well-defined special-relativistic global speed (which is different, and never exceeds $c$).

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for detailed explanation, I think I understand it now. :) $\endgroup$
    – eXPRESS
    Commented Oct 20, 2020 at 9:55

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