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Position representation of an arbitrary operator and phase space representation
I get that the two are mathematically related by the Wigner map you wrote. What I don't understand is why in the reference I mentionned (and in most textbooks I came across really) they use $A(x,-\frac{i}{\hbar}\partial_x)$ as I wrote in my comment and not $A(x,y) = <x|\hat A|y>$ as you did. This is where my confusion lies. For the specific case of $\hat A=\hat p$ which is written with a Dirac delta function you do end up with a single integral but this doesn't justify the expression for all possible operators. Thanks again for your time and my apologies for the misunderstanding...
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Position representation of an arbitrary operator and phase space representation
Now what still puzzles me regarding the phase-space is what is the difference between $<x|\hat A|y> \equiv A(x,y)$ and $A(x,p)$, or rather, how are the two related? Maybe I'm mistaken and $x$ and $p$ in the Hilbert space description are different from the $x$ and $p$ of the phase-space description.
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Position representation of an arbitrary operator and phase space representation
You're absolutely correct when you say that the momentum is an operator and that I have no trouble understanding. I should have been more precise by saying that the COHEN-TANNOUDJI's book (which is a standard quantum mechanics textbook) writes $<\psi | \hat A | \psi> = \int dx \psi^*(x)A(x,-\frac{i}{\hbar}\partial _x)\psi(x)$ so when I wrote '$p(x)$' I meant $-\frac{i}{\hbar}\partial _x$. But just to be sure, you seem to confirm that in general the mean value of an operator written in terms of the position representation should account for two variables, $x$ and $y$?
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Position representation of an arbitrary operator and phase space representation
Thank you for your answer. If you say that indeed one should write $\hat A = \int dxdy|x><y|<x|\hat A|y>$ then can you would agree that $<\psi|\hat A |\psi> = \int dx dy\psi^*(x)<x|\hat A|y>\psi(y)$ and then coud you explain to me why people usually write it as (for example in the COHEN-TANNOUDJI Quantum mechanics I eq. D28) as $\hat A = \int dx \psi^*(x)A(x,p(x))\psi(x)$ ? This is precisely why I can't make sense of the expression you wrote, what is usually written and the phase-space description which accounts for $x,p$.
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