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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
@FlatterMan ... Note to illustrate more, if the measurement measure in a superhuman way the spin at a specific phase of a precession, then this can be interpreted in stead that we are measuring in a certain direction that is different from the conserved overall spin So for each phase, in principle it indeed looks like from your description that it is super deterministic.
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
@FlatterMan , One could also call it a bug in the analysis of the experiment. What about this addition to the text above. ...
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
@FlatterMann Yes, it becomes very complicated, But considering the forces involved in measuring spin in Stern Gerlash one see that the only stable setup for the dynamic system of a spinning particle that precess are when the precession axis is aligned with the direction of the measurement indicating that you may end up with a binary outcome as those are attractors and stable. Would love to test it out in a simulation.
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
@WillO As I understand super determinism is one of the loop holes known in Aspect's experiment and as I understand Aspect himself argue that's the reason Bell's inequality is violated. I have not seen a proof of it though.
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
Regarding Stern Gerlach, I think you simplify too much unless precision has been studied before in this context (link please) and you know it's conclusion. I actually could motivate that the outcome of Stern Gerlash type of experiment could be due to intrinsic precision by examining the math and forces involved with deterministic spinning object and the spin detector, but not prove it.
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
Note to illustrate more, if the measurement measure in a superhuman way the spin at a specific phase of a precession, then this can be interpreted in stead that we are measuring in a certain direction that is different from the conserved overall spin So for each phase, in principle it indeed looks like from your description that it is super deterministic.
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
Actually the question is not if the example is correct physically, just if one could give a correct example of what super determinism could mean in this experiment. But your comment is well noted.
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Is this a correct example of a superdeterminism?
Hmm, if we had super powers, we could choose which phase to measure and by doing so a hypothetical experiment would yield different answers no? Now reality is that we measure p(X) as we do not have super powers, e.g. x is hidden.
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Why can't one calculate the energy of the one electron Uranium ion state with the Dirac equation?
Yes that makes sense, using this improves the values for other elements as well
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