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I'm having the same doubts as the poster of this question. Even after going through the logic of the answer, I still don't get how it resolves the issue of having the factor of $N$ on the first term, not the second term in AS:

First order correction to self-energy claimed by AS

Upon doing the first order correction to the Green's function (which includes the terms with one interaction that enter the first order correction of the self energy), it's pretty clear that the two contributions to $\langle\sum_{c,d,\mathbf{p_{1,2,3}}}\phi^a_{\mathbf{p}}\phi^b_{\mathbf{-p}}\phi^c_{\mathbf{p_1}}\phi^c_{\mathbf{p_2}}\phi^d_{\mathbf{p_3}}\phi^d_{-\mathbf{p_1}-\mathbf{p_2}-\mathbf{p_3}}\rangle$ have the following diagrams:

First order correction to Green function

Now, the first diagram is proportional to $\sum_{c,d}\left(G^{ac}_{0,\mathbf{p}}G^{cb}_{0,\mathbf{p}}\sum_{\mathbf{p'}}G^{dd}_\mathbf{p'}\right)$ while the second diagram is proportional to $\sum_{c,d}\left(G^{ac}_{0,\mathbf{p}}G^{bd}_{0,\mathbf{p}}\sum_{\mathbf{p'}}G^{cd}_\mathbf{p'}\right)$ (note that shifted the momentum sum to account for the p-p' in the text - which is possible by translational invariance of the $\phi^4$ action). We can read off the first order correction to the self energy from this, from which it is clear that we get a factor of $N$ from the sum over d in the first diagram! This is not what AS claims in the equation above. The answer in the original post suggests that this factor of $N$ can be absorbed into the definition of feynman rules in this case, but I don't buy it. Regardless of definitions, $N$ is still a parameter that controls the non-crossing approximation - the first term is in higher order of $N$ than the second term regardless of the feynman rule applied. The only explanation now is that my calculations are incorrect (or I have a serious misunderstanding of how feynman diagrams work). Please help me. I've been stuck for a whole week.

EDIT Making a brave claim here: I think Altland Simons is just wrong in this section. As suggested in the stackexchange post I linked above, it should be clear that complete boson loops do indeed give a factor of N (and the second loop should indeed dominate in the large N limit). It's also in what appears to be fradkin's notes. So would the NCA involve "tree like diagrams" only? But this isn't what I see in some papers. I'm still confused, but I definitely see contradictions between reputable sources here.

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  • $\begingroup$ That equation doesn't seem to make sense as $G_{0,p}$ is a matrix (it has vector indices. This may be the source of the problem. $\endgroup$
    – lcv
    Commented Sep 4 at 15:31
  • $\begingroup$ @lcv the $G_{0,p}$ is just $G^{ll}_{0,p}$ for any $l=1,...,N$, which are equal by the symmetries of the generalized $\phi^4$ action. The $\delta^{ab}$ out front takes care of the matrix element $\endgroup$
    – Huchaney
    Commented Sep 4 at 16:18
  • $\begingroup$ Is it $G^{ll}$ or $\mathrm{tr} G=N G^{ll}$? $\endgroup$
    – lcv
    Commented Sep 4 at 17:06
  • $\begingroup$ PS in your post did you ever define $G$ to be $G^{ll}$? $\endgroup$
    – lcv
    Commented Sep 4 at 17:08
  • $\begingroup$ yes, I meant it to be $G^{ll}$ it pops out naturally in the calculation. And I mean $G^{ll}$ not its trace $\endgroup$
    – Huchaney
    Commented Sep 4 at 23:46

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Thank you for the post! The Fradkin's note you posted really helped me a lot.

I also ran into this problem recently and was really confused about it. But I think the problem is in how you define the Feynman diagram for the interaction.

In Altland and Simons, the Feynman diagram is defined such that the spins of the legs on two sides of the interaction (wavy) line are the same:

Interaction diagram in AS

However, in Fradkin's note you posted, it is defined such that the spin of the legs on the same side of the interaction (wavy) line are the same:

Interaction diagram in Fradkin's note

When you equate the spins a and b by connecting them, you lose a factor of N. But in the above two different definitions, connecting a and b results in a tadpole and a rainbow diagram respectively.

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