# What is the preferred basis objection to the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics?

I've seen the preferred basis problem referred to in many places, but have not seen a clear explanation of what the problem is. For example, this question asks whether the problem has been solved, but I wasn't able to glean anything from the discussion on what the problem was. Zurek 2001 gives the following:

the original MWI does not address the "preferred basis question" posed by Einstein

with a footnote quoting Einstein as saying this:

When the system is a macrosystem and when ψ1 and ψ2 are 'narrow' with respect to the macrocoordinates, then in by far the greater number of cases this is no longer true for ψ = ψ1 + ψ2. Narrowness with respect to macrocoordinates is not only independent of the principles of quantum mechanics, but, moreover, incompatible with them.

The first sentence seems obvious to me. I'm baffled by the second sentence. Some states are narrow and some are not. What's the problem, and what does this have to do with a basis or a preferred basis?

Zurek, "Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical," http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0105127

Narrowness is precisely the essence of the preferred basis problem.

Consider: some states are narrow, some are not. Given that some are narrow and some are not, why should 'narrowness' come about as a meaningful concept at all? Why should this quality be an interesting one?

Consider the position of a pointer. We don't interpret non-narrowly pointed states of the pointer as physical, basically by the very definition of what we mean by "a pointer" (after all, we take for granted that some systems can only occupy narrow states, and these are called pointer states in common terminology). In quantum mechanics, the non-narrow states of the pointer are perfectly valid. Then how does the pointer come in practice to inhabit the narrow states?

The answer is that the pointer has a preferred basis (or something which is almost but not quite an orthonormal basis, in the case of literal pointers having different positions): a basis in which its environment tends preferentially to interact, so that the information about the state of the pointer which is encoded in that basis gets copied in other systems, and is therefore strongly correlated. (This is the notion of quantum Darwinism: the information best suited to be reproduced elsewhere, comes to spread faster than it could be stopped, giving rise in practise to decoherence in the basis in which that information is represented.) The question then arises: how does one determine that basis, and why should this basis be priviledged in our experience of the world? For instance, whatever the superposition to which we supposedly belong, according to the MWI, we percieve a strong tendancy for objects to be spatially localised. Why? How does one explain the way in which the myriad potential microscopic worlds merge into distinguishable macroscopic worlds? Why should a superposition state seem, from the inside, like a decomposition with respect to any particular basis?

That is the preferred basis problem, in a nutshell.

• Is it a fair summary to say that the problem is "how does classical physics come out of all this" Nov 24, 2017 at 14:10
• @sudorm-rfslash: That is one, very curt, way of summarising the problem, yes. Only because that question is one which can be applied more generally to all of quantum mechanics, it is not a very precise way of summarising the problem. A more precise way of summarising the problem would be: "how precisely does the phenomenon of measurement as we understand it come out of all of this?" Nov 30, 2017 at 19:00
• Presumably things appear localized in position because the Lagrangian is local in position. The copying happens via the couplings in the Lagrangian. It's certainly an interesting open question why the Lagrangian breaks position-momentum symmetry, but it's a question for quantum gravity, not QM interpretations. Even if there is an interpretational problem, it's a problem for every interpretation (what determines the basis for the Born rule + collapse?). After reading your answer I still don't understand why people object to MWI specifically on these grounds. Nov 3, 2020 at 21:05
• @NieldeBeaudrap Making another attempt to summarize the preferred basis problem, does it say- 'Why do we not observe macroscopic objects in a state of being in superposition at two distinct locations?'. If yes, then decoherence theory already seems to have explained it. If I somehow put two tennis balls in a state of being in superposition at two distinct locations, then air molecules that will collide with the balls will have an interaction that will select the spatially localized basis due to the local nature of the collisions. So does decoherence theory solve the preferred basis problem?
– Prem
Aug 2, 2021 at 19:01

Stapp's paper has a series of misunderstandings on how MWI collapse dynamics should be formulated (In his defense, even Everett was not at all clear at the time either)

The main misunderstanding is that in MWI "There is no collapse". What happens is subtler than that: Collapse does not disappear, it is replaced by multipart system entanglement arising from regular Hamiltonian wave function dynamics. Or put more succinctly, collapse is nothing but entanglement from the perspective of one of the systems being entangled, when it can be described macroscopically as an observer or a measurement apparatus.

The second, more nuanced misunderstanding is overstating the need for a "natural basis" to arise. Basis are naturally sampled depending on how the multiple parts interact and become entangled: if the observer system has a steep magnetic gradient, then the natural basis of interaction with spin-1/2 particles will be the Stern-Gerlach basis. If the observer system has just a large but constant magnetic field, then the natural basis will be those of different linear momenta.

Let me know if that clarifies the issue.

• I think you agree that there is no collapse in many worlds in the same way as there is no collapse when two spins half particles interact to create a bell pair. Also, in your 3rd paragraph, do you mean that the preferred basis problem has been solved when considering global unitary picture at the universe level (many world interpretation)?
– Prem
Aug 2, 2021 at 19:09

Consider a quantum system Q in a superposition of states. If you perform an ideal measurement (M) on Q, theory says you will wind up with Q and M in a correlated entangled state MQ - still a superposition. Finally, when a human observes the M's pointer, his or her brain joins the correlated entangled state BMQ.

The basic problem is that after all of this there is no well-defined single state of the system Q, nor of the measuring device M, nor of the observer's brain. It can't be said that the observer has observed any particular result.

Further interaction with the environment, if treated quantum mechanically, only brings in more "stages" to the same situation - the superposition continues to exist, indefinitely.

In the early days, Bohr presumed that there was the "quantum world," and the "classical world," and that as soon as the classical world got involved things were sharp and clear. This problem only arises when you try to make quantum theory the only explanatory system in play, and one rejects the idea of "collapse." Collapse to a single eigenstate of the observable being measured carries the rest of the chain with it, and resolves the issue.

So Many Worlds gets tagged with this because it attempts to do without collapse.

Hope this helps!

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• I fail to see how this answer actually addresses the question. You say that you find the preffered basis problem compelling, but the closest you seem to get to explaining what the problem actually is is a hint at a reference in your first sentence and from there your answer moves further and further away from the topic at hand. Dec 12, 2018 at 13:27