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Suppose I have a rod of mass m initially at rest, for which a torque (F1, F2) is applied at the right side during a brief time $\Delta t$, as in the schema below. The rod is not fixed to anything and not submitted to gravity or any other forces.

rod torque Intuitively, I would say that the center of mass G would follow a circular trajectory, as pictured in gray in the schema. But this seems to contradict what I learnt when I was young, that the acceleration of the center of mass stems from the sum of the applied exterior forces (which is zero here). Some help to understand where I am wrong would be welcome.

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I wish to see how will the rod move in a finite amount of time, so I assumed there are two opposite charges at the two positions $A$ and $B$ with a static uniform electric field along the vertical direction filling all space. This allows one to match the initial forces exactly with the question and also to solve for the finite-time behavior.

The kinetic energy is $T=1/2 m (\dot{x}_c+\dot{y}_c)+ 1/2 I \dot{\theta}^2$, where $I$ is the moment of inertia around the center of mass and $\theta$ is the angle the rod makes with $x$ axis. The potential energy is $V=-k y_A+k y_B=k(l_B-l_A) \sin\theta$, where $l_B$ is the distance of B to the center of mass, and similarly for $l_A$. Now the Lagrangian is $$L=T-V.$$ Using the Euler–Lagrange equation $\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_\alpha}}-\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_\alpha}=0$, one can get the equations for $x_c$, $y_c$, $\theta$: $$\frac{d ^2 x_c}{d t^2}=0$$ $$\frac{d ^2 y_c}{d t^2}=0$$ $$I \frac{d ^2 \theta}{d t^2}=-k(l_B-l_A) \cos\theta.$$ From the first two one can see that if the center of mass is initially at rest, it will remain so. From the third one can solve for $\theta(t)$, which can be done numerically. The bottom line is, the rod rotates with its center of mass being at rest the whole time.

I confess that even after deriving and solving these equations I still find it counter-intuitive.

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  • $\begingroup$ So, you introduce electric charges inside an E field to be able to use a potential energy in the context of analytical mechanics during a brief time. You are a real fan of analytical mechanics, aren't you :-) $\endgroup$
    – MikeTeX
    Commented Sep 2, 2022 at 5:48
  • $\begingroup$ But I think the simplest and the best answer is that of basics. Since it has been unduly downvoted, I demand other persons to upvote it. $\endgroup$
    – MikeTeX
    Commented Sep 2, 2022 at 5:53
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Your intuition is wrong. The position of the center of mass doesn't change, and you've already explained why, i.e. for the second law of Dynamics.

The rods have an angular acceleration, given by the equation of motion for rotation of rigid bodies, whose component in the out-of-plane direction reads

$I_G \dot{\omega} = M_G^{ext} = -F d$,

having assumed counter-clockwise rotations as positive, $I_G$ the inertia around the out-of-plane axis, $\omega$ the component of the angular velocity in the same direction, $F$ the force magnitude and $d$ the distance between the action lines of the couple of forces.

Putting together the results from the equations of motion for translation and rotation, you can assert that body starts rotating around its center of mass, whose position in space is constant.

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    $\begingroup$ "lying on the floor" means that the floor introduces actions, through friction, in the system. So you'd better model it if you want the mathematical system to be representative of your physical system $\endgroup$
    – basics
    Commented Aug 31, 2022 at 11:22
  • $\begingroup$ Maybe you don't agree with Physics this time, or if you agree with Physics the mathematical model above doesn't agree with you. No offense, but I would trust in Physics and accurate mathematical models, to be tested against accurate physical experiments, rather than your intuition $\endgroup$
    – basics
    Commented Aug 31, 2022 at 11:38
  • $\begingroup$ @basics The question says nothing about 'lying on the floor'. $\endgroup$
    – Gert
    Commented Aug 31, 2022 at 11:42
  • $\begingroup$ in my comments, i was referring to @Kuhlambo comments. The orginal question is quite clear, and my answer replies to it $\endgroup$
    – basics
    Commented Aug 31, 2022 at 11:45
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    $\begingroup$ @Kuhlambo. I can understand why basics feels bitter. If you have tried to experiment this case, I think the problem may be you have to be very careful about the way you apply the torque to the rod: fingers are not good. Maybe a wood rod immersed in water with 2 small propellers (mounted with an elastic) to create the forces F1 and F2 may give a better idea of what is going on. $\endgroup$
    – MikeTeX
    Commented Aug 31, 2022 at 14:07

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