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Is kinematic time dilation considered connected to accelerated particles or the spacetime around the particles?

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  • $\begingroup$ This is evergreen. Have you done any searching through the forum to see if your question is already answered? $\endgroup$
    – Dan
    Commented Jan 6, 2022 at 22:36
  • $\begingroup$ Yes. Answers are the relativity from frame of references. Twin paradox solves by acceleration. Accelerating breaks symmetri. Particle accelerators proves Einstein's theory of special relativity. ... But not where time dilation initiates. $\endgroup$
    – Quantum
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 0:56
  • $\begingroup$ No twin paradox is not solved by acceleration.This is known misconception $\endgroup$
    – Jun Seo-He
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 1:11
  • $\begingroup$ @JPolgár you can ask a new question about the twin paradox so you are not confused anymore $\endgroup$
    – Jun Seo-He
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 1:31
  • $\begingroup$ @Jun Seo-He , It was not meant to debate or ask about the Twin Paradox.. There exists so plenty of explanations and answers to these Twins. $\endgroup$
    – Quantum
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 2:11

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Time dilation follows from the geometry of spacetime. It arises because two reference frames which are moving relative to each other do not have a common time axis. Instead the time axis of each frame is tilted relative to the time axis of the other, the degree of tilt increasing with speed, so that a plane of constant time in one frame is a sloping slice through time in the other.

The consequence of the sloping planes of constant time is called the relativity of simultaneity, and all the effects of SR, such as time dilation, the barn paradox, the twin paradox etc, follow straightforwardly from it. Nearly all the effects have direct spatial analogies with everyday experience. There are plenty of answers on this site that explain how time dilation arises from the relativity of simultaneity. However, let me try an analogy...

Suppose you climb the stairs on a double-decker bus. In your frame of reference (the bus) you have climbed 3 metres, say. However, if the bus had been driving up a ramp, and in the time you had climbed 3m it had also gone 1m up the ramp, then to someone standing outside you would have risen 4m in total. The 3m height you have risen in your frame seems 'dilated' to the person standing outside who has seen you rise 4m. The difference arises not because the stairs of the bus have grown, or any other physical effect like that, but simply because you and the person outside use a different baseline of height. Your baseline is the bus, and that baseline is higher than the baseline of the person outside because you have gone up a ramp.

Time dilation happens in an analogous way. If you move 3 seconds through time in your frame of reference and while you are doing that, your entire frame of reference has moved up a sloping ramp of time in the other frame to a region where the local time in that frame was a second ahead, then in that other frame you will have moved forwards 4 seconds. It is not because anything has happened to your watch, but because your frame and the other frame have different baseline times.

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Is kinematic time dilation considered connected to accelerated particles or the spacetime around the particles?

You could make either interpretation if you wish. The math and the experiments just tell you how much time is measured on a given clock.

However, I believe that most scientists prefer to interpret it as being connected with spacetime. Time dilation is simply one facet of spacetime having a (-+++) signature. This approach has the advantage of simplicity and predictive utility. Accepting that one simple premise leads automatically to all relativistic effects.

Associating time dilation with the particles instead requires multiple explanations, one for each type of particle, and a non-spacetime reason why they are all the same. Also, even with such an array of explanations, you would need additional explanations for all the other relativistic effects.

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  • $\begingroup$ In the original paper Einstein didnt use the concept of spacetime he used time dillation and length contraction. $\endgroup$
    – Jun Seo-He
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 2:27
  • $\begingroup$ Until GR and Minkowski. $\endgroup$
    – Quantum
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 2:31
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    $\begingroup$ @JunSeo-He Yes. So what? Einstein got the first word on relativity, not the last word. What I say is no less correct and valid for the fact that it was not known by Einstein in 1905 $\endgroup$
    – Dale
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 2:40
  • $\begingroup$ @Dale im not saying ur wrong $\endgroup$
    – Jun Seo-He
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 3:19
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    $\begingroup$ It's good. And so is Sean Carroll. $\endgroup$
    – Quantum
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 20:21
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Time dillation is between inertial frames.

Suppose we have a observer A travelling at 0 m/s which has a clock A and a observer B travelling at 10m/s which has a clock B.

According to obsever A the clock of observer B(clock B) will tick slower than his/her clock(clock A).

According to observer B the clock of observer A(clock A)will tick slower than his/her clock(clock B) because according to B A is moving with a velocity of 10m/s away from him/her.

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  • $\begingroup$ Talk of 'observers' confuses things. Instead of observer A, think of an inertial frame of reference, A, equipped with a rulers and synchronised clocks spaced close together, allowing you to read the time interval between events in different places in the frame, using clocks right next to where the events happen. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 6, 2022 at 23:02
  • $\begingroup$ About observer A and B.. If they share initial frame of reference, synchronize clocks, break of symmetri is done if B accelerates, travel longer spatial distance than A, return and become at rest with A again. The "accelerated" and Dialated particle is B. Now when sharing frame of reference again.and compare each other... .. Where did the dilation of B occur? .. Was it B's Space? . Was it at Quantum Level? $\endgroup$
    – Quantum
    Commented Jan 7, 2022 at 1:12

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