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I recently asked my physics teacher this question, and he could not give me a clear answer: How gravity acts on a streched rope?

Consider example like this one below: if we strech a rope of mass m between points distance d apart, how low will the rope hang? And what will be the tension on the rope? Is rope a perfect parabola in this scenario? I just find it extremely quaint and I couldn't find the answer anywhere. enter image description here

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  • $\begingroup$ Do you want exact mathematical equation? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 11:25
  • $\begingroup$ @Shubkam Kumar Yeah, like force in terms of mass, distance etc., or height in terms of the same. And how are they derived. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 11:42
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    $\begingroup$ Does this answer your question? The hanging chain problem (catenary), numerically $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 14:40
  • $\begingroup$ I hope you are okay with hyperbolic equations . If not inform us we will further elaborate it. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 14:40
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    $\begingroup$ Does this answer your question? Shape of a string/chain/cable/rope/wire? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 16:54

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The shape of a freely hanging massive rope in gravity is a catenary. Parabola comes as a natural guess to early learners. Even Galileo once thought it to be a parabola.

Tension is varying at every points but calculation of tension at end points can be done by force balance equations. $$Derivation:$$ Consider a freely hanging massive rope with uniform linear mass density $ {\lambda}$. Let $x$ and $y$ axes represent horizontal and vertical co - ordinate axes. Point$(0,0)$ be the lowermost point i.e. the point where $\frac{dy}{dx} = 0$

Observe : By horizontal force balance horizontal component of tension is same everywhere. Assign it a variable $T_H$ which can be calculated easily by vertical force balance at the end points and torque balance equation about center of mass (You will need this equation in calculation of $T_H$ in asymmetrical case.)

Between any arbitrary $x$ and $x+dx$: $$T_H \left(\frac{dy}{dx}_{x+dx} - \frac{dy}{dx}_x\right) = {\lambda}dsg$$ Since, $$ds^2= dx^2+dy^2$$ $$or , ds = dx \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)^2}$$ The above given equation becomes - $$T_H \left(\frac{dy}{dx}_{x+dx} -\frac{dy}{dx}_x\right) = {\lambda}gdx\sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)^2}$$ $$or, \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{{\lambda}g}{T_H}\sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)^2}$$

Now to further progress from here , making use of $u$ substitution , put $\frac{dy}{dx} = u$. $$\frac{du}{dx} = \frac{{\lambda}g}{T_H} \sqrt{1+u^2}$$

The solution of this differential equation is - $$u = \sinh \left(\frac{{\lambda}g}{T_H}x\right)$$ and thus applying proper boundary conditions- $$y=\frac{T_H}{{\lambda}g} \cosh \left(\frac{{\lambda}g}{T_H}x\right) - \frac{T_H}{{\lambda}g}$$

See , the given equation is for symmetrical case . By making the situation asymmetric there will only be difference in boundary conditions.

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    $\begingroup$ Thaks, this derivation is a little more clear than the ones I found. But I'm still not sure how to calculate mass from this final equation. If I understand correctly, λ = total mass over total lenght, right? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 15:59
  • $\begingroup$ Your understanding about $ {\lambda}$ is right. To calculate total mass m, $m =\int{\lambda}ds$. On lighter note place the rope on a mass balance to get the mass of the rope. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 16:08
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    $\begingroup$ Sorry, I asked wrong question. In this scenario we assumed, that λ is known. I was solving a problem, where only distance between upper points of a rope, lenght of a rope and tension in the lowest point were given. If I get this right, TH is this tension, but still don't know how to manipulate this equation in such way, that it solves for mass. Sorry for a mess, I just started getting into calculus. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 17:30
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The shape is the catenary.

To derive it take a small section of the rope and balance the forces. The shape of the rope follows the curve $y = y(x)$.

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Here the segment with length ${\rm d}s = \sqrt{{\rm d}x^2 + {\rm d}y^2} = (\sqrt{1 + y'^2}) {\rm d}x$ has weight per length of $w$ and thus the total vertical external force applied is $w {\rm d}s$.

The segment is pulled to the left by tension with horizontal component $H$, and to the right by the horizontal component $H+{\rm d}H$. But since there are not external forces along the horizontal, it means that $${\rm d}H = 0 \tag{1}$$, or that the horizontal component of the tension is always constant along the rope.

Similarly, the left side is pulled down by the cable by the vertical component $V$ and pulled up by $V+{\rm d}V$. The balance of forces in the vertical direction is $(V + {\rm d}V) - V - w{\rm d}s =0$ or $$ {\rm d}V = w {\rm d}s \tag{2}$$

The tension is also always tangent to the rope which means that at any point

$$ (\text{slope}) = y' = \tfrac{V}{H} \tag{3} $$

Next re-arrange the above as $V = H y'$ and take the derivative with respect to $x$ on both sides

$$ \require{cancel} \tfrac{ {\rm d}V}{{\rm d}x} = H y'' + \cancel{\tfrac{ {\rm d}H}{{\rm d}x}} y' $$ or

$$ w \tfrac{ {\rm d}s}{{\rm d}x} = w \sqrt{1+y'} = H y'' \tag{4}$$

The solution to the above is given by an equation of the form $$y(x) = y_0 + a \left( \cosh \left( \frac{x-x_0}{a} \right) -1 \right) \tag{5}$$

The $\cosh$ function is what gives it the catenary shape. I leave it up to the reader to evaluate $y'$ and $y''$ and prove that (5) solves (4).

Note that the point $(x_0,\,y_0)$ is the lowest point on the curve, and the parameter $a$ is called the catenary constant (with length units) describes the radius of curvature of the rope at the lowest point.

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It is interesting to note that the questioner’s intuition about the curve being a parabola is correct if the suspended weight varies linearly with $x$ rather than with the curve length $s$. A similar analysis to those in other answers then gives

$\displaystyle \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}= \text{constant}$

A practical example of this is a suspension bridge where the weight of the cables is much smaller than the weight of the horizontal suspended roadway.

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  • $\begingroup$ Does a suspension bridge have the support cables in parabola? Is there a reference for this? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 19:43
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    $\begingroup$ @JohnAlexiou “Assuming a negligible weight as compared to the weight of the deck and vehicles being supported, the main cables of a suspension bridge will form a parabola” - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_bridge#Structure $\endgroup$
    – gandalf61
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You are looking for this word: catenary

Deriving this from Newton's laws is not trivial. Fortunately, there's a derivation on Wikipedia.

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    $\begingroup$ Link only answers are frowned upon in this forum. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 14:38
  • $\begingroup$ You could have done this in comment box. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 15:04
  • $\begingroup$ @ShubhamKumar But then Allure would be told “don’t put answers in comments” !! $\endgroup$
    – gandalf61
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  • $\begingroup$ @gandalf61 I was referring to Allure's answer $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 4, 2020 at 15:12

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