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I had a question about the following document- Natural units

I understand the conversion factors. But if you look at the tables, they take an SI unit, say 1 kg, convert it into geometrized units, say $1$ m, and then reconvert it into SI units, which is $1.3466\times 16^{27}$ kg. I refer specifically to the table on pg. 4.

  1. When we reconvert an SI unit back into an SI unit, shouldn't we get back 1 kg?

  2. On pg. 2, they say $E$ can be any unit of energy. How is that? Clearly assuming $E=1$ J and $E= 1$ GeV gives us different answers.

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    $\begingroup$ Welcome to physics.SE. The usual expectation on SE is that questions should be self-contained. Otherwise when the external link evaporates, the question becomes useless. Could you edit the question to summarize the relevant material? BTW, I assume $16^{27}$ was meant to be $10^{27}$, unless you're really into hexadecimal. $\endgroup$
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For reference, here is table 2 from page 4 in reference [$1$]:

NaturalUnits_table2

  1. When we reconvert an SI unit back into an SI unit, shouldn't we get back 1 kg?

Yes. The source of confusion here seems to be a misunderstanding of what the first line in table 2 means. It means that in a system of units in which the speed of light ($c$) and Newton's constant ($G$) are both equal to $1$, the SI unit "$1$ meter" can also be expressed as a number of kilograms, specifically $1.3466\times 10^{27}$ kg. The table is not starting with $1$ kg and then ending up with $1.3466\times 10^{27}$ kg. Instead, it is showing how to express "$1$ meter" in kilograms. Here's the explicit calculation, using $c=G=1$, keeping only two significant digits for simplicity: \begin{align} 1\text{ meter} &= 1\text{ m }\times\frac{c^2}{G} \\ &\approx 1\text{ m }\times\frac{ (3.0\times 10^8\text{ m/s})^2 }{ 6.7\times 10^{-11}\text{ m}^3/(\text{kg}\cdot\text{s}^2) } \\ &\approx 1\text{ m }\times\frac{1.3\times 10^{27}\text{ kg}}{1\text{ m}} \\ &\approx 1.3\times 10^{27}\text{ kg}. \end{align} The first step simply multiplies by $1$, expressed as $c^2/G$. Since we're using units in which $c=G=1$, we could also multiply by $1$ expressed as, say, $c^{42}G^{7/3}$, if we wanted to, because that's also equal to $1$ in these units, and the result would still be legitimate. However, that would give an awkward combination of the SI units "meter" and "kilogram" on the right-hand side. The reason for multiplying by $c^2/G$ is that all of the meters cancel, leaving only kilograms, so we can use this to express a given number of meters as some number of kilograms, or conversely. For example, the mass $M$ of the sun is $2.0\times 10^{30}$ kg, which can be expressed in meters like this: \begin{align} M\approx 2.0\times 10^{30}\text{ kg} &\approx 2.0\times 10^{30}\text{ kg}\times \frac{1\text{ m }}{1.3\times 10^{27}\text{ kg}} \\ &\approx 1.5\times 10^3\text{ m}. \end{align} The Schwarzschild radius of the sun is $R=2GM/c^2$, which can be written simply as $R=2M$ in units where $c=G=1$. Either way, it comes out to be $R\approx 3$ km.

  1. On pg. 2, they say $E$ can be any unit of energy. How is that? Clearly assuming $E=1$ J and $E=1$ GeV gives us different answers.

Of course, $1$ Joule and $1$ GeV are two entirely different amounts of energy. They are not equivalent. On the contrary, $1$ GeV is equivalent to $\approx 1.6\times 10^{-10}$ Joules, according to page 126 in reference [2] and also acknowledged explicitly on page 2 in reference [$1$]. Page 2 in reference [$1$] is saying that if we use units in which $c$ and Planck's constant $\hbar$ are both equal to $1$ (that is, $c=\hbar=1$), then we can express kilograms, meters, and seconds all in units of energy. Once we have a quantity in units of energy, we can express it either in GeV or in Joules — with different numeric values, of course, because $1$ GeV $\approx 1.6\times 10^{-10}$ Joules. That's all reference [$1$] means by "where $E$ is an arbitrarily chosen energy unit" below equation (2); nothing novel, just the usual freedom to express a given amount of energy using either GeV, or Joules, or ergs ($1$ erg $=10^{-7}$ J), or kilowatt-hours, or whatever happens to be convenient.


References:

[$1$] Myers, "NATURAL SYSTEM OF UNITS IN GENERAL RELATIVITY," https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~amyers/NaturalUnits.pdf

[2] "The International System of Units (SI), 8th edition," International Bureau of Weights and Measures (BIPM), http://www.bipm.org/utils/common/pdf/si_brochure_8_en.pdf

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