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I'm no expert here, so please forgive the question if it's too vague: I know that a changing electric field can give rise to a magnetic field, and I believe it is correct to say that static magnetic fields arise due to the changing electric fields found in electrons (right?) That being the case, is it possible to create a static magnetic field in the absence of any electric field, or are the two just manifestations of the exact same thing?

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    $\begingroup$ I'm sure you have fridge magnets... $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:06
  • $\begingroup$ Well...yes, but if I understand it correctly the magnetic field in such a magnet is caused by moving electrons, which carry charge and therefore by their motion induce a changing magnetic field $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 14:09
  • $\begingroup$ Almost all of the magnetization of fridge magnets is from electron spins. $\endgroup$
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  • $\begingroup$ see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferromagnetism $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 11, 2018 at 15:07
  • $\begingroup$ It's problematical—in the baseline quantum description—to describe the intrinsic magnetic moment of a point-particle as arising from 'motion'. For that matter it is problematic to describe the magnetic moment of a atom in it's ground-state as arising from motion as the state has zero-time-derivative. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 12, 2018 at 1:54

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The electric and magnetic fields are manifestations of the same thing, the electromagnetic field, and what you call magnetic/electric is observer dependent. For instance, if you had a charge at rest in your hand, you would feel an electric field but no magnetic field, whereas an observer that was passing by in a car would feel a different electric field to yours, in addition to a magnetic field.

Nevertheless, this does not forbid you of having a magnetic field and no electric field. For example, this is the situation when charges move through a wire. You do not feel any electric field away from it (because the wire is neutral, there are as many electrons as protons). However, there is clearly a magnetic field created by the moving electrons, which will be static if these move at constant speed (this can ideally be done just connecting a constant voltage between the ends of the wire).

However, it is true that if you have a non zero total charge, then it is not possible not to feel any electric field. This is because it would violate Gauss' Law of electromagnetism (which tells you that the the total charge enclosed by a surface must be equal to the flux of the electric field through that surface, so total charge different from zero basically implies electric field different from zero).

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