# How hot would it get, if you put a greenhouse inside of a greenhouse inside of a greenhouse (like those Russian matryoshka dolls)?

I remember it being quite hot in the last green house I went inside, and I'm imagining how hot you can make it has something to do with the difference between the temperature inside and outside, because that would determine the conduction of heat through the wall no? So if you construct a smaller green house inside of an existing larger green house, then it should get hotter in the smaller one, and if you keep nesting the green houses I'm imagining at some point you'd just melt your inner building materials and have a hot blob of plastic, which might burst into flames and bring the whole thing down... how many layers would that take?

A greenhouse works by letting in visible light, which are absorbed by plants (and any other absorbing surfaces) inside, while blocking the IR radiation re-emitted by those plants. Suppose you had another smaller greenhouse inside the bigger one. Then what radiation passed through the bigger greenhouse shall also pass through the smaller one (whatever fraction is incident on it; to be sure there will be some reflection too). Radiation re-emitted by plants in the bigger greenhouse will not get through into the smaller greenhouse for the same reason that they cannot escape out of the bigger one. So for all intents and purposes the smaller greenhouse may be considered to be directly exposed to sunlight (albeit with enhanced reflection since the sunlight has to pass through two glass walls). Therefore if there are absorbing surfaces inside the smaller greenhouse too, then the temperature there can be no greater than that inside the bigger greenhouse. The argument may be extended to nested greenhouses, and the temperature inside any of the greenhouses would not be greater than that inside the biggest greenhouse.

• I hadn't thought about the outer greenhouses filtering out some of the higher frequency light. You're right, that's going to reduce the amount of light getting in. But I think your analysis neglects the increased temperature in the outer greenhouse. Some energy gets into the inner one, and that inner one is effectively better insulated, so it's less inclined to loose what little you give it. In other words you can think of that entire outer area as a thicker wall for the inner greenhouse, so it should stay warmer. Jul 27, 2017 at 9:46
• @user273872 Increase in temperature of greenhouse is not neglected. Energy does get into inner one but that is from directly incident sunlight on the inner greenhouse. If internal energy of the outer greenhouse could make it into the inner one (through the glass wall of the inner one) then this transfer has to be from higher to lower temperature. If inner greenhouse were to have greater temperature what stops it from transferring heat to the outer greenhouse using the same mechanism?
– Deep
Jul 28, 2017 at 4:57
• I would adjust the statement "not be greater than...". Because you give two possible scenarios: 1) the temperature stands constant for all nested greenhouses; 2) or if the T is allowed to decrease, towards infinity greenhouses, you'll get a lower T than outside - that seems unreasonable or paradoxical :/ I would rather say that all greenhouses will reach an equilibrium temperature (hard to say what it will be).
– gbon
Jan 25, 2022 at 11:21
• @gbon You are right.
– Deep
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:37

The answer by @Deep gets it correctly that the inner green house would get somewhat smaller amount of energy than the outer green house, so there is no gain... there is even loss of efficiency. The answer however gets incorrectly a few points about the greenhouses, which it is necessary to clarify:

Greenhouse theory
Greenhouse is heated by Sun, which can be considered as a black body with temperature of about $$6000K$$. The plants, earth and other object inside the greenhouse absorb this radiation and reemit it. This radiation can be also considered as black-body radiation, but at the temperature inside the greenhouse, which is much lower than that of the Sun - about $$300K$$ (mainly in the infrared). It is this difference in temperatures that results in the net heating (not blocking the infrared radiation - in fact, some materials transparent in visible spectrum could be blocking the ultraviolet just as well).

Convection
The energy transfer mechanism that is blocked in the greenhouse is convection - without the greenhouse the heated earth and plants would heat the air around them, which would rise, carrying with it the energy. Greenhouse blocks air flow, keeping the hot air inside.

Why does not temperature keep rising?
What limits the highest temperature in the greenhouse is inevitable convection losses, but also the thermal conductance through the earth and the greenhouse walls.

• @EmilioPisanty fixed. Jan 25, 2022 at 11:14

The point of having an inner greenhouse may be very valuable as frost protection. It would take longer to cool down.

Also it works to keep moisture in just like a lidded seed tray.

My greenhouse has an 80L water butt inside to act as a thermal mass during the winter.

I believe in Alaska they put a wall of water butts on the north side to extend the seasons.