How did Einstein come the conclusion that nothing can travel faster than the light in vacuum?
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5$\begingroup$ Possible duplicate of Special Relativity, 2nd Postulate -- Why? $\endgroup$– ACuriousMind ♦Commented Aug 10, 2016 at 10:29
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3$\begingroup$ Are you asking a historical question of how Einstein came to that conclusion, or are you asking a physocs question about why nothing can travel faster than light? $\endgroup$– John RennieCommented Aug 10, 2016 at 10:30
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$\begingroup$ Does Einstein's theory of special relativity say that nothing can travel faster than light? I think what it really says is that only things with imaginary masses can travel faster than light. $\endgroup$– Peter ShorCommented Aug 10, 2016 at 11:19
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3$\begingroup$ The linked question is not a duplicate. The linked question talks about who decided that the speed of light is a universal constant and why. This question asks, How did Einstein get from "speed of light is a universal constant" to "nothing else can outrun a light signal." $\endgroup$– Solomon SlowCommented Aug 10, 2016 at 13:35
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$\begingroup$ @jameslarge Yes I wholeheartedly agree, unless there is something blindingly obvious I'm missing (thought I was going a little mad when I saw "duplicate"). You can vote to reopen, although it would be good if the OP showed a little more research. Mind you, the question is a valid one, but also vague enough that someone without key knowledge would have trouble knowing where to begin. $\endgroup$– Selene RoutleyCommented Aug 10, 2016 at 23:02
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We reach this conclusion because we believe in causality: certain physical processes are observed to happen always in a certain order, never otherwise. For example, I have never eaten boiled eggs in my existence on this planet without my having to cook them first.
Before I go further, the correct rendering of your statement is that no causal link from event $A$ to event $B$ can lie outside $A$'s future lightcone, often stated "no signal can propagate faster than $c$". See my answer here where I show that certain processes can travel at faster than $c$ if there is no causal relationship between the events within the process. The travel of a material object you refer to is just a special case of a process whose events are causally linked.
Now to the rest of my answer: we postulate that the order between my cooking my eggs and my eating them is not changed when one observes these processes from relatively moving frames: there is no inertial observer moving relatively to me whose motion causes them to see me eating my eggs before I cook them. This is a crucial point once one derives the Lorentz transformation, because the Lorentz transformation shows that there is a relativity of simulteneity. Different, relatively moving observers do indeed observe different before/after time relationships between certain events. So how do we save our notions of causality?
We postulate that causal links cannot travel faster than $c$. For example, the link between my cooking my eggs and my eating them is (1) directed forwards in my time (pointing to my future) and (2) lies inside my future light cone. As long as this inside-my-future-lightcone condition is fulfilled, the basic properties of the Lorentz group guarantee that a boost cannot change the order of events linked by such relationships, even though it does change the time and space co-ordinates of those events.
There are other ways to motivate no-faster-than-light travel: for example, that the energy required to accelerate something with nonzero restmass to $c$ would be infinite. However, the upholding of causality is the overarching and most forceful motivation: there is no way to uphold the observed orders of events within a process if any pair of events on that process's worldline lie outside each others' future/past lightcone. If we believe in causality, no faster than light signalling is an inescapable conclusion.
See my answer here and here where I show how the basic order-preservation properties of a subluminal boost follow. Also this answer discusses causality in more detail.
answered Aug 10, 2016 at 11:25
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$\begingroup$ I think your causality argument is an unnecessary complication. Equivalently, but much more simply and clearly, you can say: "If Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light postulate is true, then faster-than-light travel is impossible." $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 10, 2016 at 11:43
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2$\begingroup$ @PentchoValev That doesn't needfully obviously follow: you have to prove or motivate that deduction. Causality is, IMO, the most forceful way to do it. Even then, it's not a deduction but the invoking of a further postulate to save something else in physics - causality- we believe in. Another way to understand all this, again directly from the geometry of the Lorentz group, is to understand that the identity connected component of that group holds no supraluminal boosts: no finite number of finite boosts can accelerate one to a relative motion of $c$ or greater. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 10, 2016 at 11:54
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$\begingroup$ In the example below, if the deactivation device is able to send a faster-than-light signal to the bomb, then special relativity ends up in a contradiction: the bomb explodes in the frame of the train but does not in the frame of the tunnel (that is, Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light postulate is false): people.fas.harvard.edu/~djmorin/chap11.pdf p. 41: 11.6. "Train in a tunnel" $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59
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$\begingroup$ @PentchoValev In other words, the faster than light signal i.e. a causal link between device and bomb outside the device's future light cone, messes up the order of events. This is the same idea expressed in an example: the causality argument is the overarching idea, and your example a special case. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 10, 2016 at 12:34
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$\begingroup$ @PentchoValev I just thought of another example you may be interested in: Look up the Tolman-Einstein paradox, aka the "Tachyonic Antitelephone" thought experiment. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 10, 2016 at 22:59
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In 1905 Einstein postulated that the speed of light is constant (more precisely, independent of the speed of the light source). I haven't seen a text where he infers from his postulate that nothing can travel faster than light.
As for the postulate, Einstein took it from the ether theory, even though in 1887 (prior to FitzGerald and Lorentz advancing the ad hoc length contraction hypothesis) the Michelson-Morley experiment had unequivocally proved that the speed of light does depend on the speed of the light source:
http://books.google.com/books?id=JokgnS1JtmMC Banesh Hoffmann, Relativity and Its Roots, p.92: "There are various remarks to be made about this second principle. For instance, if it is so obvious, how could it turn out to be part of a revolution - especially when the first principle is also a natural one? Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether. If it was so obvious, though, why did he need to state it as a principle? Because, having taken from the idea of light waves in the ether the one aspect that he needed, he declared early in his paper, to quote his own words, that "the introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' will prove to be superfluous."
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/1743/2/Norton.pdf John Norton: "The Michelson-Morley experiment is fully compatible with an emission theory of light that CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE."
answered Aug 10, 2016 at 11:23
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Not sure about Einstein, I'd better speak for myself!
Relativity theory says, that it's not always possible to tell which of two events occurred earlier than the other. It's counter-intuitive, but does not lead to any paradoxes.
Wait! I'll give you a paradox! Yesterday I checked my mailbox, today I am going to put a letter into it. If for someone the "put letter into mailbox" event happens before "check mailbox", he would be able to take the letter as soon as I put it into mailbox and put it back just before I check it, so effectively I'll send a letter to myself into the past! Isn't it a paradox?
This time-travel paradox happens only if it is possible to travel faster than light. If I am traveling slower than light and some event 1 happened to me before event 2, these two events would happen in this order (first event 1 than event 2) in all the systems of reference which are moving slower than speed of light.
As soon as anyone finds a way to send some information faster than a speed of light, it would become possible to send the information back in time.
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$\begingroup$ The claim that time-ordering is not fixed only applies to space-like separated events. Your checking the mail box and later putting a letter in represent time-like separated events, the ordering of which is fixed. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 26, 2016 at 19:34
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$\begingroup$ @dmckee You are right, ordering of space-separated events is not fixed. But that's not a problem because you can not "travel between these events"! And that's because to travel between space-separated events you need to have a speed faster than light. If someone can travel faster than light, then the events "travel start" and "travel finish" are space-separated and in some systems of reference "finish" happens before the "start". That's what I was trying to explain in my original post. $\endgroup$– lesnikCommented Aug 27, 2016 at 8:29