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Edit: I have tried answering this a different way since posting this, see my newer answer below.

Problem I'm interested in solving: How much radiative heat load is entering the system through optical windows (in SI units - Watts)? (see the images below)

I have tried to break the problem into its most basic components. We have a series of 4 boxes, one inside the other.The boxes themselves are radiation shields and so should have very little radiation entering through them. Can consider it negligible as the windows are the focus of the question.

They are not in thermal contact with each other and there is a gap between each one (in reality the top of the boxes are connected to something else and not floating in air!).

The outer box has a window on each side (except top and bottom). The diameter of the windows are 50mm and 3mm thick.

The 2nd and 3rd boxes have holes in each side to allow light to travel through (eg. if you wanted, you could shine a laser through and into the inner box).

The inner box also has windows on each side. The diameter is 10mm and the thickness is 1mm. Each box is at a different temperature.

The outer box is exposed to ambient temperature around it (293K is a fine approximation). The 2nd box is at 50K. The 3rd box is 4K. The inner box is 2K. There is a vacuum inside the boxes.

How many watts makes it through the 2nd window (where I might have a sample of some sort)?

Some other info: The windows are in thermal contact with the boxes and thus the same temperature. The boxes are aluminium and the windows are Zinc Selenide. However, any material could be used for the calculation. I want to know how it was done and what properties of the material were used. For Zinc Selenide, I was using an emissivity of $0.88$. It transmits $75$ percent of light (approximation) between $0.6\mu m$ and $21\mu m$ wavelength range.

To try solve this, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that only the windows need to be considered. I tried to use the Stefan-Boltzman law but the answer I get seems suspiciously low. Window 2 answer is tiny. I feel I'm missing some key consideration needed to solve the problem.I tried to put all info in the drawing below even if I'm not using everything in the calculation.

Stefan-Boltzman Law (with transmissivity term): \begin{equation} P = \tau \epsilon \sigma A (T_1^4 - T_2^4) \end{equation} Emissivity $\epsilon = 0.88$

Stefan-Boltzman Constant $\sigma = 5.67 \times 10^{-8}$

A = Area

Transmissivity $\tau = 0.75$

Window 1 (Outer)

Radius = $\phi / 2 = 0.05 / 2 = 0.025 m$

Area = $\pi (0.025)^2 = 0.00196 m^2$

\begin{equation} P_1 = \tau \epsilon \sigma A (T_1^4 - T_2^4) = (0.75) (0.88)(5.67 \times 10^{-8}) (0.00196) (293)^4 = 0.541 W \end{equation}

Window 2 (Inner)

Radius = $\phi / 2 = 0.01 / 2 = 0.005 m$

Area = $\pi (0.005)^2 = 0.000079 m^2$

\begin{equation} P_2 = \tau \epsilon \sigma A (T_1^4 - T_2^4) = (0.75) (0.88)(5.67 \times 10^{-8}) (0.000079) (2)^4 = 4.73 \times 10^{-11} W \end{equation}

At this point I'm stuck as it seems something is wrong. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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  • $\begingroup$ Transmissivity 𝜏=0.75. .... is the missing 0.25 light reflected or absorbed? $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 8 at 15:35
  • $\begingroup$ I'm not too sure. I have values for the absortion coefficient at various wavelengths for this material but don't know how it applies. I thought that the amount of transmission was what was key. Even if I assume worst case serario and all the light is transmited, the answer is still very small. $\endgroup$
    – Cones
    Commented Mar 10 at 18:02
  • $\begingroup$ thorlabs.com/… $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 11 at 0:07
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    $\begingroup$ Thor labs is a good source of specs for optical! $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 11 at 0:08
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for your suggestion. $\endgroup$
    – Cones
    Commented Mar 12 at 9:48

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Your second approach is much better. If you have enough light power to make negligible the thermal radiation of the inner shield (including the inner window), then the light power transmitted to the sample is all you care about. Of course, to calculate the effect of that light power, i.e. how much it heats up the sample, you'd need to know how much the sample absorbs, how much it re-radiates, and the quality of thermal contact to the sample mount. In these situations where you have heat coming in from one side (optical) and flowing out the other (to the cold finger), there will be a thermal gradient across the sample, and it behooves you to measure temperature as close to the sample as possible (if not directly on the sample and/or directly via some property of the sample).

If the solid angle subsumed by the inner window, $\Omega$, is equal to or smaller than the solid angle of the outer window, then you can just multiply the incident power, $P_0$, by the transmittances and (twice, for two windows) the solid angle ($2 T^2 P_0 \Omega$). This would be appropriate for thermal radiation which is coming from all angles outside.

But what purpose are windows except to illuminate the sample? If you are providing some illumination $P_0$, then that may be both larger in power than the thermal background and smaller in solid angle than the windows. Then it's just $T^2 P_0$, where T is the transmittance of your illumination spectrum through one window (which may differ from the blackbody spectrum).

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you very much for your reply, it helps a lot! $\endgroup$
    – Cones
    Commented May 13 at 10:54
  • $\begingroup$ I'm not completely sure what is meant by this sentence: "If the solid angle subsumed by the inner window, Ω, is equal to or smaller than the solid angle of the outer window" What would be the solid angles and what would be the subtend of the angles in this case? Would you have a resourse where I could learn more about this equation: $2T^2P_0\Omega$ I have not encountered this before. $\endgroup$
    – Cones
    Commented May 13 at 11:08
  • $\begingroup$ @DominicBrennan Are you familiar with solid angle more generally? That equation, I just threw it together, so take it with a grain of salt until you can verify. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_angle $\endgroup$
    – Gilbert
    Commented May 13 at 14:00
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    $\begingroup$ @DominicBrennan In this context, solid angle is the fraction of the total sphere of outside heat bath that the sample can "see". It can only see a small fraction of the whole room-temp outside surroundings since the windows are small and relatively far away. So just calculate that solid angle, which could be limited by either the inner or outer windows, and go from there with the knowledge that the outside light will traverse two windows to get in (and possibly ignoring etalon effects of the windows). $\endgroup$
    – Gilbert
    Commented May 13 at 14:10
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    $\begingroup$ @DominicBrennan Presumably, the window sizes were designed to admit a similar solid angle to the center of the chamber. So, you just figure out what fraction of the 4*pi steradians of 300 K blackbody radiation gets to your sample and then multiply by two factors of window transmission. (You could include corrections due to the fact that (a) your sample has a finite size and (b) your windows are flat rather than curved portions of spheres centered on the middle of the chamber, but let's not needlessly complicate things). $\endgroup$
    – Gilbert
    Commented May 14 at 15:29
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I believe I was approaching this in the wrong way and the Stefan-Boltzman equation is not what is needed here. I decided that I should have used the incoming light intensity along with the known transmission rate. For example, looking at the first window and choosing 1000W/m^2 as the incoming light intensity (purely as an example).

Window 1 (Outer):

Radius: $r_1 = \phi_1 / 2 = 0.05 / 2 = 0.01 m$

Area: $ A_1 = \pi (0.01)^2 = 0.000314 m^2$

Assuming $1000 W/m^2$ light intensity incoming to the outer window and a tranmittance factor of $T=0.75$:

Light intensity through window 1: \begin{equation} I_1 = T \times I_{0_1} = 0.75 \times 1000 = 750 W/m^2 \end{equation}

Radiative power through window 1: \begin{equation} P_1 = I_1 \times A_1 = 750 \times 0.000314 = 0.2356 W \end{equation}

The light intensity emitted from the first window should equal to the light incident on the second window ($I_1 = I_{0_2}$). I'm assuming there wouldn't be much loss (I would appreciate any information on the validity of this assumption).

Window 2 (Inner):

Radius: $r_2 = \phi / 2 = 0.01 / 2 = 0.005 m$

Area: $ A_2 = \pi (0.005)^2 = 0.000079 m^2$

Light intensity through window 2: \begin{equation} I_2 = T \times I_{0_2} = 0.75 \times 750 = 562.5 W/m^2 \end{equation}

Radiative power through window 2: \begin{equation} P_2 = I_2 \times A_2 = 562.5 \times 0.000079 = 0.0444 W \end{equation}

If anyone has any options on the validity of this approach, I'd be interested to know.

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