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For this problem, the solution is: $$y=\frac{m}{qE}\gamma\left[\cosh\left(\frac{qEx}{mv\gamma}\right)-1\right]$$ where $\gamma = 1/\sqrt{1-v^2}$. Here something seems to be wrong. I think that for the non-relativistic limit where $v$ is very small in magnitude, the trajectory of $y$ must be a parabola. However, this kind of behavior happens when $v$ is close to $1$, when $1/(v\gamma)$ becomes small, so the taylor expansion works for some range of $x$. How should I account for this phenomenon? In Newtonian mechanics, it seems clear that the trajectory of $y$ is a parabola.

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  • $\begingroup$ -1 Not clear what you are asking : where v is very small in magnitude, the trajectory of y must be a parabola. However, this kind of behavior happens when v is close to 1, when 1/(vγ) becomes small $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 23, 2018 at 17:57
  • $\begingroup$ Yes that is exactly what I am asking... The Newtonian mechanics is valid for low velocities and the Newtonian mechanics states that the $y(x)$ is the form of a parabola. So, it seems natural that the solution above becomes a parabola when $v$ is small. But, so exactly contrary to my belief, y(x) becomes a parabola only when $v$ is close to 1. So I am totally confused. Isn't it clear? $\endgroup$
    – Keith
    Commented Mar 23, 2018 at 19:12
  • $\begingroup$ How did you come to the conclusion that $y(x)$ is a parabola when $v$ is close to 1? $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 23, 2018 at 21:04

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First, the Newtonian result is that $$ y = \frac{1}{2} a t^2 = \frac{1}{2} \frac{qE}{m} t^2, \qquad x = vt; $$ combining these two equations, we obtain $$ y = \frac{1}{2} \frac{qE}{mv^2} x^2. $$ Note that the $x$-velocity $v$ does in fact appear in this result.

To obtain this as a limit of the relativistic result, you need to take is the limit $x \ll m v / q E$, with $v \ll 1$ (but not zero) so that $\gamma \approx 1$. This is always possible so long as $v \neq 0$. In this limit, you can use the fact that $\cosh x \approx 1 +x^2/2$ to find that $$ y(x) \approx \frac{m \gamma}{qE} \left[ 1 + \frac{1}{2} \left( \frac{qEx}{mv} \right)^2 - 1 \right] = \frac{1}{2} \frac{qE}{m v^2} x^2, $$ in agreement with the Newtonian result. Nowhere in this derivation is it assumed that $v \approx 1$; in fact, it is necessary to have $v \ll 1$ so that $\gamma \approx 1$.

Note that you can't combine the Newtonian equations in the case $v = 0$ either, because the particle's trajectory is a straight line in this case. Rather, you have to have a non-zero initial velocity that is much less than the speed of light, and only track the particle over ranges of time such that both its $x$-velocity and $y$-velocity remain small compared to the speed of light. In particular, you'll probably find in the course of doing this problem that the $y$-component of the four-momentum of the particle is $$ p^y = qEt, $$ and if $v \ll 1$, then the non-relativistic limit is the limit in which this quantity is much less than the rest mass: $qEt \ll m$. Since $x = vt$ in the non-relativistic limit, this then implies that we must also have $x \ll mv/qE$, which is precisely the limit I stated at the top.

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  • $\begingroup$ I am confused that for a fixed m, q, E the velocity v must be close to the speed of the light in order to get the parabola approximation. The Newtonian result seems to hold when the velocity v is close to 1.That seems like a blatant discrepancy... $\endgroup$
    – Keith
    Commented Mar 23, 2018 at 15:51
  • $\begingroup$ @Keith: The $x$-velocity $v$ appears in the Newtonian result as well. I have updated my answer to make this clearer. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 23, 2018 at 20:33
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Electric and Magnetic fields transform for moving frames of reference:

$$\begin{align} \vec E' &= \gamma( \vec E + \vec v \times \vec B ) - (\gamma - 1)(\vec E \cdot \hat v) \hat v \\ \vec B' &= \gamma( \vec B - \frac{\vec v \times \vec E}{c^2} ) - (\gamma - 1)(\vec B \cdot \hat v) \hat v \\ \end{align}$$

Note that these transformations have non-zero terms even for $\gamma \approx 1$. In your assignment, $\vec v(0) = v \hat x$, $\vec B = 0$ and $\vec E = E\hat y$ in the rest frame. Then in the frame of the electron, $\vec B'$ and $\vec E'$ are:

$$\begin{align} \vec E' &= \gamma E \hat y \\ \vec B' &= -\frac{\gamma vE (\hat v \times \hat y)}{c^2} \\ \end{align}$$

The total force on the electron is then given by the Lorentz force law: $$\vec F = q((1+\gamma {v^2 \over c^2}) E\hat y - \gamma {v^2 \over c^2} E(\hat v \cdot \hat y)\hat v )$$

This only reduces to the parabolic case when $v \approx 0$, but reduces to a non-relativistic (but still non-parabolic) case much earlier, when $\gamma \approx 1$.

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