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Clearly light bounces off of things, going really really fast. I'm curious to understand how light interacts with matter in order to bounce without:

  1. Applying force to the object

  2. Losing speed

So my questions parts, in the interest of the one given in the title are:

  1. What makes photons move through space and interact with matter the way that they do, down at the core level?

  2. What might happen to a photon if we squeezed one into a photon-sized container and stopped it from even vibrating, for example?

  3. What would speed it back up?

  4. Furthermore, would the speed increase back to light-speed over time, or would the speed be achieved instantly?

These sub-questions are all part of the same general question as stated:

Why does light not slow down?

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  • $\begingroup$ Bear in mind it is massless so probably doesn't behave in ways you would expect. It also might help to consider that in a vacuum it is impossible to slow light down. What we traditionally consider 'light speed', $c$, is in fact the speed of a massless particle. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 19, 2015 at 7:01
  • $\begingroup$ I'm not sure this is a good answer, but being pure energy with no rest mass, light can't slow down. It can interact with what it bumps into, so in theory with such a container light would either bounce off or get absorbed into and excite the electrons, basically turn into heat.It's goes back to the conservation of energy law. If you stop light, it essentially becomes heat which radiates more light. The form of the energy can change, but not the speed of the light. Though there are some new experiments $\endgroup$
    – userLTK
    Commented Feb 19, 2015 at 10:00
  • $\begingroup$ I was going to say - new experiments using a Bose-Einstein condensate and slowing light down significantly, but, that stuff is over my head. $\endgroup$
    – userLTK
    Commented Feb 19, 2015 at 10:08
  • $\begingroup$ Possible duplicates: physics.stackexchange.com/q/466/2451 , physics.stackexchange.com/q/11820/2451 , physics.stackexchange.com/q/153904/2451 , physics.stackexchange.com/q/20289/2451 and links therein. $\endgroup$
    – Qmechanic
    Commented Feb 19, 2015 at 12:00

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It is not correct saying that no force is applied. A photon carries momentum see PE here so on reflection there is momentum transfer. This is the idea behind laser propulsion discussed here. Concerning the speed it is even more complicated. The fact that light gets reflected usually requires an abrupt change in the index of refraction. To get reflected, hence, the photon interacts with the medium that reflects it. So it penetrates the medium to some extend. This takes time especially as the speed of light is slower in the medium, due to the interaction of the electric field with the surrounding matter. The speed of light in a dielectric medium is often subject of discussions as shown here. Unfortunately the accepted answer in that discussion is not really satisfying as the slowing down does not require loss of energy nor is it stochastic. It is better to look at the overall electromagnetic wave and its interaction with a surrounding that can give an electromagnetic response. In any case, thinking about light (particle, wave or what) and, furthermore, its interaction with matter is sort of mind boggling.

Edit 1 on loosing speed:

Mostly one would consider very large objects so they are considered static and the photon is outgoing with the same momentum. If the reflecting object is very small, one might consider a movement and a reduced momentum. This would, however not reduce the speed of the reflected photon buts its momentum and, therefore, its energy. This, hence, changes the wavelength. This process would be somewhat like inelastic scattering. Still, one has to consider conservation of momentum and energy (unless concerned with general relativity; then energy conservation goes out the window).

Edit 2 on energy and momentum transfer:

Considering one of the questions in the comments if the energy and momentum transfer has something to do with solar energy or could be used as alternative, here some simple estimates for a photon with wavelength $\lambda = 560\;\mathrm{nm}$ (somewhat yellowish). The energy of the photon is $E= h c/ \lambda= 2.2\;\mathrm{eV}=3.54\;10^{-19}\;\mathrm{J}$. The momentum is $p=h/\lambda$ and the transfer is approximately $\Delta p= 2p=2.37\;10^{-27}\;\mathrm{kg\;m/s}$. A mirror of mass $m=1\;\mathrm{kg}$ responsible for that momentum transfer, will have kinetic energy $p^2 /(2 m)=2.8\; 10^{-54}\;\mathrm{J}$. The required change in wavelength of the photon providing this energy can be approximated by (the approximation assumes that the change is small, which it is as we see now) $\Delta \lambda \approx \Delta E \lambda^2/(h c)=2h/(mc)=4.42\; 10^{-33}\;\mathrm{nm}$

Note that you get the same if you interpret this as relativistic dopplereffect, i.e. $\Delta \lambda \approx \lambda v/c$, where $v$ is the speed of the mirror due to the momentum transfer of the photon. (The approximation holds for $v \ll c$). Also note that the absolute change in wavelength, for large wavelength i.e. small photon energies, is independent of the wavelength; so $\Delta \lambda/\lambda \rightarrow 0$ for $\lambda \rightarrow \infty$.

So a hypothetical change in wavelength is below anything one might hope to measure (33 digits behind the comma). Furthermore the energy gain in the mirror is ridiculously small compared to the energy one can get by absorption. Nevertheless, the momentum transfer is not that bad, as one can easily "fire" $10^{27}$ photons to get a reasonable overall effect. Efficiency seems poor though, so make a quick search on photon propulsion for why and how it is done in the first place.

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  • $\begingroup$ Out of curiosity sparked by this answer and comments: If light does apply a force and furthermore, can be disrupted resulting in a conversion to heat energy, is this the principle behind solar power, or might that make some new form of solar energy conversion a possibility? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 19, 2015 at 15:27
  • $\begingroup$ Well, the momentum transfer resulting in energy transfer is sort of hypothetical, and of no interest in relevant systems. So no, this is not the mechanism behind solar power and typical photon related "energy-transfer"; in photovoltaics the photon gets absorbed. Or energy wise: why would you reflect if you can absorb? I also doubt that this is useful for any type of energy conversion except for the above mentioned light propulsion. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 20, 2015 at 13:33
  • $\begingroup$ @CuriousWebDeveloper, consider radiometers, which move due to photon absorbtion/momentum. But they are too small and delicate to be a solar energy source. [I dunno if anyone has but magnets on a radiometer to generate electricity....] $\endgroup$
    – Jiminion
    Commented Feb 23, 2015 at 14:02
  • $\begingroup$ @Jiminion, the way how and why these radiometer move is very delicate. Movement is more likely to come from heating the black part via absorption therefore creating a heat gradient in the residual gas. The whole thing is so fragile that I doubt that anybody attached magnets, but it is, in theory, not impossible. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 23, 2015 at 14:10
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    $\begingroup$ @mikuszefski you are correct. The paddles move with the white panels moving forward, which is indicative of a heat gradient, and not a momentum transfer. $\endgroup$
    – Jiminion
    Commented Feb 23, 2015 at 14:55

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