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Physical and Diagrammatic representation of $a$=undefined when $v$=0 according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$

$a$=acceleration

$v$=velocity

$x$=position along x axis

$t$=time instant

My teacher derived the $a$=$v$$dv$/$dx$ formula as follows

Assume a particle at time $t$ is at $x$ position having $v$ velocity

Assume, When time=$t+dt$,it has position as $x+dx$ and velocity as $v+dv$

enter image description here

Therefore, acceleration is

Final velocity-Initial velocity/time interval

Which here, is $v+dv-v$/$t+dt-t$=$dv$/$dt$

Now,we can write $a$=$dv$/$dt$×$dx$/$dx$

And since $dx$/$dt$ is velocity from $x$ to $x+dx$, we can write

$a$=$vdv$/$dx$

enter image description here

Now,I know that when $v$=0, $dx$=0 as well, so the equation $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ becomes indeterminate or undefined

My only question is,can you represent this situation of when $v$=0,$dx$=0 and therefore $a$=undefined/indeterminate according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ in proper structured drawings or diagrams only about this formula? (I know there are other ways to find acceleration which don't give indeterminate or undefined value) just talking about this formula, like the diagram my sir just showed?? Like represent or plot or draw this situation of $v$=0,therefore $dx$=0 as well and therefore $a$=undefined by $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ ,It mathematically and graphically makes sense to me,i can solve the hardest questions of my grade, but likei just don't want a calculus proof, I just can't plug in numbers and derivatives,i want to physically understand this formula and also how it becomes undefined "physically" when $v$=0,like a situational based story/diagram would help a lot.

Diagrammatic representation of $a$=undefined when $v$=0 according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$

$a$=acceleration

$v$=velocity

$x$=position along x axis

$t$=time instant

My teacher derived the $a$=$v$$dv$/$dx$ formula as follows

Assume a particle at time $t$ is at $x$ position having $v$ velocity

Assume, When time=$t+dt$,it has position as $x+dx$ and velocity as $v+dv$

enter image description here

Therefore, acceleration is

Final velocity-Initial velocity/time interval

Which here, is $v+dv-v$/$t+dt-t$=$dv$/$dt$

Now,we can write $a$=$dv$/$dt$×$dx$/$dx$

And since $dx$/$dt$ is velocity from $x$ to $x+dx$, we can write

$a$=$vdv$/$dx$

enter image description here

Now,I know that when $v$=0, $dx$=0 as well, so the equation $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ becomes indeterminate or undefined

My only question is,can you represent this situation of when $v$=0,$dx$=0 and therefore $a$=undefined/indeterminate according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ in proper structured drawings or diagrams only about this formula? (I know there are other ways to find acceleration which don't give indeterminate or undefined value) just talking about this formula, like the diagram my sir just showed?? Like represent or plot or draw this situation of $v$=0,therefore $dx$=0 as well and therefore $a$=undefined by $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ ,It mathematically and graphically makes sense to me but like a situational based story/diagram would help a lot.

Physical and Diagrammatic representation of $a$=undefined when $v$=0 according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$

$a$=acceleration

$v$=velocity

$x$=position along x axis

$t$=time instant

My teacher derived the $a$=$v$$dv$/$dx$ formula as follows

Assume a particle at time $t$ is at $x$ position having $v$ velocity

Assume, When time=$t+dt$,it has position as $x+dx$ and velocity as $v+dv$

enter image description here

Therefore, acceleration is

Final velocity-Initial velocity/time interval

Which here, is $v+dv-v$/$t+dt-t$=$dv$/$dt$

Now,we can write $a$=$dv$/$dt$×$dx$/$dx$

And since $dx$/$dt$ is velocity from $x$ to $x+dx$, we can write

$a$=$vdv$/$dx$

enter image description here

Now,I know that when $v$=0, $dx$=0 as well, so the equation $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ becomes indeterminate or undefined

My only question is,can you represent this situation of when $v$=0,$dx$=0 and therefore $a$=undefined/indeterminate according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ in proper structured drawings or diagrams only about this formula? (I know there are other ways to find acceleration which don't give indeterminate or undefined value) just talking about this formula, like the diagram my sir just showed?? ,It mathematically and graphically makes sense to me,i can solve the hardest questions of my grade, but i just don't want a calculus proof, I just can't plug in numbers and derivatives,i want to physically understand this formula and also how it becomes undefined "physically" when $v$=0,like a situational based story/diagram would help a lot.

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$a$=acceleration

$v$=velocity

$x$=position along x axis

$t$=time instant

My teacher derived the $a$=$v$$dv$/$dx$ formula as follows

Assume a particle at time $t$ is at $x$ position having $v$ velocity

Assume, When time=$t+dt$,it has position as $x+dx$ and velocity as $v+dv$   

enter image description here

Therefore, acceleration is

Final velocity-Initial velocity/time interval

Which here, is $v+dv-v$/$t+dt-t$=$dv$/$dt$

Now,we can write $a$=$dv$/$dt$×$dx$/$dx$

And since $dx$/$dt$ is velocity from $x$ to $x+dx$, we can write

$a$=$vdv$/$dx$

enter image description here

Now,I know that when $v$=0, $dx$=0 as well, so the equation $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ becomes indeterminate or undefined

My only question is,can you represent this situation of when $v$=0,$dx$=0 and therefore $a$=undefined/indeterminate according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ in proper structured drawings or diagrams only about this formula??  (I know there are other ways to find acceleration which don't give indeterminate or undefined value) just talking about this formula, like the diagram my sir just showed?? Like represent or plot or draw this situation of $v$=0,therefore $dx$=0 as well and therefore $a$=undefined by $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ ,It mathematically and graphically makes sense to me but like a situational based story/diagram would help a lot, thanks!.

$a$=acceleration

$v$=velocity

$x$=position along x axis

$t$=time instant

My teacher derived the $a$=$v$$dv$/$dx$ formula as follows

Assume a particle at time $t$ is at $x$ position having $v$ velocity

Assume, When time=$t+dt$,it has position as $x+dx$ and velocity as $v+dv$  enter image description here

Therefore, acceleration is

Final velocity-Initial velocity/time interval

Which here, is $v+dv-v$/$t+dt-t$=$dv$/$dt$

Now,we can write $a$=$dv$/$dt$×$dx$/$dx$

And since $dx$/$dt$ is velocity from $x$ to $x+dx$, we can write

$a$=$vdv$/$dx$

enter image description here

Now,I know that when $v$=0, $dx$=0 as well, so the equation $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ becomes indeterminate or undefined

My only question is,can you represent this situation of when $v$=0,$dx$=0 and therefore $a$=undefined/indeterminate according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ in proper structured drawings or diagrams only about this formula??(I know there are other ways to find acceleration which don't give indeterminate or undefined value) just talking about this formula, like the diagram my sir just showed?? Like represent or plot or draw this situation of $v$=0,therefore $dx$=0 as well and therefore $a$=undefined by $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ ,It mathematically and graphically makes sense to me but like a situational based story/diagram would help a lot, thanks!

$a$=acceleration

$v$=velocity

$x$=position along x axis

$t$=time instant

My teacher derived the $a$=$v$$dv$/$dx$ formula as follows

Assume a particle at time $t$ is at $x$ position having $v$ velocity

Assume, When time=$t+dt$,it has position as $x+dx$ and velocity as $v+dv$ 

enter image description here

Therefore, acceleration is

Final velocity-Initial velocity/time interval

Which here, is $v+dv-v$/$t+dt-t$=$dv$/$dt$

Now,we can write $a$=$dv$/$dt$×$dx$/$dx$

And since $dx$/$dt$ is velocity from $x$ to $x+dx$, we can write

$a$=$vdv$/$dx$

enter image description here

Now,I know that when $v$=0, $dx$=0 as well, so the equation $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ becomes indeterminate or undefined

My only question is,can you represent this situation of when $v$=0,$dx$=0 and therefore $a$=undefined/indeterminate according to $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ in proper structured drawings or diagrams only about this formula?  (I know there are other ways to find acceleration which don't give indeterminate or undefined value) just talking about this formula, like the diagram my sir just showed?? Like represent or plot or draw this situation of $v$=0,therefore $dx$=0 as well and therefore $a$=undefined by $a$=$vdv$/$dx$ ,It mathematically and graphically makes sense to me but like a situational based story/diagram would help a lot.

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