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The problem is as follows: A ball moving in a straight line is experiencing acceleration $a(t)=kt$ until it arrives at a certain length $l$ when some time $t_f$ has passed. The initial speed and position are both $0$

In order to solve this equation I tried using the alternative form $\int v dv = \int a dx$

In which I found the final speed via $\int_{0}^{v_f}v dv=\int_{0}^{l} k t dx$ result being $\frac{1}{2} {v_f}^2 = l k t_f $

This is wrong.

My questions are:

1.How does one go about integrating acceletarion with respect to position, when acceletarion is time dependant.

2.Why does the aformentioned process work when acceletarion is constant.

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    $\begingroup$ If a=a(t) you have to integrate for t, which you also can do for a=const, but integrating for x when t depends on x does not work- $\endgroup$
    – trula
    Commented Feb 21 at 14:40
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    $\begingroup$ From any acceleration, $a(t)$, you will get $v(t)$ and $x(t)$ by integration. Certainly you will not find that $x$ does not depend on $t$. But that is what you assumed in your $\int k t \, dx$ integral. That should be read as $\int_0^\ell k\, t(x) \, dx$ and you need to know the functional form $t(x)$, the inversion of $x(t)$, in order to solve it. $\endgroup$
    – Ben H
    Commented Feb 21 at 16:23

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Just use the definition of acceleration as first derivative of speed:

\begin{equation} a=\frac{dv}{dt}. \end{equation}

Integrating both sides we have

\begin{equation} \int_0^v dv' = \int_0^t dt'\,a(t')=\int_0^t dt'\,kt'=\frac{kt^2}{2}. \end{equation}

Hence, the speed is $v(t)=\frac{kt^2}{2}$. Use the definition of speed as first derivative of position

\begin{equation} v=\frac{dx}{dt}, \end{equation}

and integrate both sides:

\begin{equation} l=\int_0^l dx = \int_0^{t_f} dt\,v(t)=\int_0^{t_f} dt\,\frac{kt^2}{2}=\frac{kt^3_f}{6} \end{equation}

from which $t_f^3=\frac{6l}{k}$. Plug now $t_f$ into $v(t_f)$ and you get the final speed as a function of $l$:

\begin{equation} v_f=\frac{kt^2_f}{2}=\frac{k}{2}\left(\frac{6l}{k}\right)^{\frac{2}{3}}=\frac{1}{2}\left(6l\sqrt{k}\right)^{\frac{2}{3}} \end{equation}

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    $\begingroup$ That last expression should be $\frac 1 2 ( 6 \sqrt{K} L)^{2/3}$ $\endgroup$
    – KDP
    Commented Feb 21 at 15:04
  • $\begingroup$ You are right, I corrected. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 21 at 15:10
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your answer! I was aware of this method, I wanted to know if there is a way to integrate with respect to x something that is time dependant. $\endgroup$
    – Tensritu
    Commented Feb 21 at 16:09
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    $\begingroup$ To do an integral with respect to $x$, you would need to know $t(x)$. But that would mean you've already solved the problem! See my comment to your original post. $\endgroup$
    – Ben H
    Commented Feb 21 at 16:24
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    $\begingroup$ @Tensritu In other words what you want to do can be done if acceleration is of the form $a(t(x))$ which would be complicated to integrate with the partial derivatives. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 21 at 17:17

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