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Can the law of the lever be derived from only Newton's Three Laws of Motion?

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  • $\begingroup$ Conservation of energy (e.g., work) is more in line with the "law of the lever". $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 25, 2019 at 0:04
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    $\begingroup$ 2nd Law should do it, allowing for torque. $\endgroup$
    – Gert
    Commented Oct 25, 2019 at 0:05
  • $\begingroup$ All of kinematics that is slow and large can be derived from Newton's laws $\endgroup$
    – lineage
    Commented Oct 25, 2019 at 6:15
  • $\begingroup$ No, unless you assume the electric force that binds the lever as a solid is infinite. If Archimedes really tried to move the Earth with a lever, the lever would snap like a twig. Newton's Three Laws don't cover angular momentum, which only exists if you assume the solid materials you're dealing with have infinite strength. $\endgroup$
    – user854
    Commented Dec 3, 2019 at 0:55

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The lever law is just a result from newton's laws in the angular form.

Let $\vec{F} = F_\perp + F_\parallel$ be the force acting upon a point-like particle and $\vec{R}$ the position of its rotation axis, $F_\perp$ being the force component perpendicular to the axis and $F_\parallel$ being the parallel one.

Taking the vector product on both sides we got

\begin{equation} \vec{R} \times \vec{F} = \vec{R} \times (F_\perp + F_\parallel) = \vec{R} \times \frac{d\vec{p}_\perp}{dt} = \frac{d}{dt}(\vec{R} \times \vec{p}) \quad \Rightarrow \quad \tau = \frac{dL}{dt} \end{equation}

Where $\tau$ is the resulting torque and $L$ the angular momentum. The Law of levers arises when the total torque is zero. Then

\begin{equation} \tau = 0 \quad \Rightarrow \quad \frac{dL_1}{dt} + \frac{dL_2}{dt} = 0 \quad \Rightarrow \quad \vec{R_1} \times \vec{F_1} = \vec{R_2} \times \vec{F_2} \end{equation}

or, as usually

\begin{equation} R_1F_1\sin{\alpha_1}=R_2F_2\sin{\alpha_2} \end{equation}

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The statement "If the lever's at equilibrium, there must be zero net torque on it" is the Law of the Lever.

Write down the equation for the torque of masses pushing on a lever and it's algebraically equivalent to the "law of the lever". So that's a proof.

Suppose. I have two masses $A$, and $B$, so masses $A$ and $B$ balance if

$$ m_A x_A = m_B x_B \tag{1} $$

where $m$ is the mass and $x$ the distance to the pivot.

You could prove it via conservation of angular momentum about the pivot of the lever. Multiplying $(1)$ by $g$, we see that the torque about the pivot is $0$, hence there is no change in angular momentum; the balance beam remains at rest.

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You can derive the lever law just by using a force diagram and Newton first law, there's a proof of this in David Morin's book Introduction to classical mechanics. P.27. :)

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  • $\begingroup$ How about editing your answer to sketch this argument? $\endgroup$
    – user4552
    Commented Oct 25, 2019 at 3:28
  • $\begingroup$ For sure, i gave the reference because the proof wasnt my idea at all. :) $\endgroup$
    – J.Loz
    Commented Oct 25, 2019 at 3:34

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