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This might be a dumb question, but its art of my assignment and im stuck at the last part. So here it goes.

I have a mass-spring system, i am supposed to workout its equation using conservation of energy, and then graph the final result and prove that the area enclosed by the curve obtained after graphing, is proportional to the total energy of the oscillator.

so here is what i have so far..

Total energy of the simple harmonic system (considering a mass spring system in 1D)

E = Kinetic energy + Potential Energy = $0.5 v^2 + 0.5 \omega^2x^2 $ (where $ \omega^2= k/m$)

now i know that this is the equation of an ellipse, now i am not sure how to proceed and show the proportionality between, the area of the curve and the total energy of the system?

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  • $\begingroup$ Gauss-Green formula... $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 18:35
  • $\begingroup$ i havent studied that yet. $\endgroup$
    – dumpy
    Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 18:40
  • $\begingroup$ Sorry! I guess you have to perform explicit computations in this case $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 18:43

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Phase space is really momentum p and location x, but you can use v and x because p=mv so it's just a proportionality anyway. So think of your equation for E (which is really E/m, but again, proportionality is fine) as a constraint on a set of (x,v) that make an ellipse. All you need is a formula for the area of an ellipse (https://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10006.3.shtml) as a function of its major and minor axis lengths. Now express the major and minor axis lengths in terms of E, by looking at special points on that ellipse where x=0 or v=0, and you are done.

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  • $\begingroup$ and where does omega fit in that ellipse? $\endgroup$
    – dumpy
    Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 18:49
  • $\begingroup$ no worries,, all good now. $\endgroup$
    – dumpy
    Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 19:01
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First of all the total energy, $$E=\frac{1}{2}mv^2+\frac{1}{2}kq^2$$ Or, $$E=\frac{p^2}{2m}+\frac{kq^2}{2}$$ Or, $$1=\frac{p^2}{2mE}+\frac{q^2}{2E/k}$$ This is an equation of ellipse with semi-major axis of $\sqrt{2E/k}$ and semi-minor axis $\sqrt{2mE}$.
So the area of the ellipse $= \pi\cdot\sqrt{2E/k}\cdot\sqrt{2mE} =2\pi E\sqrt{m/k}$.
Hence the area is proportional to $E$, total energy.

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  • $\begingroup$ You may also continue your last equation by $...=2 \pi E/\omega$. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 12, 2021 at 12:26
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    $\begingroup$ Welcome to P.S.E. This is a very nice complete answer to the homework question. However, we are not here to do homework for people. Please read our help pages to see what we're all about. Please rewrite the answer in a way that helps the OP to think about the problem, but does not do the whole thing for him. $\endgroup$
    – garyp
    Commented Mar 12, 2021 at 12:39

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