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Lets look at this example

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The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ or $~\Delta x=~$ constant, where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy different (relative$~\Delta E=E_s'-E_s~$ relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case.

but if $~\Delta x~=$ const. and $~\mathbf R=\mathbf R'~$ then the energy $~E_s=E_s'~$ (invariant)

Fazit

the "frames energies" can be

  • conserved and invariant
  • only conserved
  • only invariant
  • neither conserved neither invariant

Lets look at this example

enter image description here

The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ or $~\Delta x=~$ constant, where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy different (relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case.

but if $~\Delta x~=$ const. and $~\mathbf R=\mathbf R'~$ then the energy $~E_s=E_s'~$ (invariant)

Fazit

the "frames energies" can be

  • conserved and invariant
  • only conserved
  • only invariant
  • neither conserved neither invariant

Lets look at this example

enter image description here

The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ or $~\Delta x=~$ constant, where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy different ($~\Delta E=E_s'-E_s~$ relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case.

but if $~\Delta x~=$ const. and $~\mathbf R=\mathbf R'~$ then the energy $~E_s=E_s'~$ (invariant)

Fazit

the "frames energies" can be

  • conserved and invariant
  • only conserved
  • only invariant
  • neither conserved neither invariant
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Lets look at this example

enter image description here

The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ or $~\Delta x=~$ constant, where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy differenzdifferent (relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case.

but if $~\Delta x~=$ const. and $~\mathbf R=\mathbf R'~$ then the energy $~E_s=E_s'~$ (invariant)

Fazit

the "frames energies" can be

  • conserved and invariant
  • only conserved
  • only invariant
  • neither conserved neither invariant

Lets look at this example

enter image description here

The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy differenz (relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case .

Lets look at this example

enter image description here

The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ or $~\Delta x=~$ constant, where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy different (relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case.

but if $~\Delta x~=$ const. and $~\mathbf R=\mathbf R'~$ then the energy $~E_s=E_s'~$ (invariant)

Fazit

the "frames energies" can be

  • conserved and invariant
  • only conserved
  • only invariant
  • neither conserved neither invariant
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Eli
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Lets look at this example

enter image description here

The particle energy in S frame is

$$E_s=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s\cdot \mathbf v_s+m\,g\,y=\text{const.}$$

where $~\mathbf v_s=\frac{d}{dt}\mathbf R~$

The particle energy in S' frame is

$$E_s'=\frac 12 m \mathbf v_s'\cdot \mathbf v_s'+m\,g\,y'$$

where

$$\mathbf v_s'=\frac{d}{dt}\begin{bmatrix} R'_x+\Delta x \\ R'_y\\ \end{bmatrix}$$ thus, the particle energy $~E_s'~$ is conserved (constant) only if $~\Delta x=v_x\,t~$ where $~v_x~$ constant, in this case is also the energy differenz (relative energy) conserved.

is the energy invariant ? invariant mean that $~E_s=E_s'~$ this is not the case .