# Proof that the ground pushes you up [duplicate]

It has been said that when you try to jump you are exerting your force on the ground and the ground pushes you up. I was wondering if this was an over-simplification or not. If so, what's the full explanation? Otherwise, I would like to know the derivation of this proof.

For clarification: If I jump and the ground is "pushing me up" (from a normal force), then assuming that this is not a simplification and is truly what happens, why is this true? My current hypothesis is that it has something to deal with electromagnetism (pushing two repelling magnets together; how atoms swerve to avoid collisions, for example).

• When you jump you and the planet you're standing on push each other away. You move far more than the planet does because you're a lot lighter. Dec 16, 2013 at 6:57
• Dec 16, 2013 at 7:04
• Not to be uncivil, but isn't it a little extreme to rate this question down? Is it somehow invalid? Does it fall below the "de facto" mark even if it is a "de jure" question (as in, is it too low-level)? So I am new to physics. It doesn't magically make my question poor. I would like an explanation. Dec 17, 2013 at 3:42
• possible duplicate of How can I stand on the ground? EM or/and Pauli? Dec 20, 2013 at 3:59
• Related meta post: meta.physics.stackexchange.com/q/5328/2451 Dec 20, 2013 at 9:03

If you try jumping on a trampoline, you will notice that when you jump up, the trampoline bends and stretches underneath you. It stretches some even if you stand still, but it stretches extra when you jump.

The trampoline is elastic. When it's stretched, you can feel it pulling back towards its normal shape. Thus, just before you jumped, the trampoline was extra stretched and exerted extra force on you, and this is why you went up in the air.

A similar thing happens when you stand on other surfaces, except that the stretching is very minor and we don't usually observe it. When you jump, your legs exert extra force on the ground. That compresses the ground, making it act like a spring. Being stretched further than normal, it exerts a larger-than-normal force on you, and you shoot up into the air. If you stood on a weak table or a thin sheet of ice, it might be strong enough to hold you as you stand still, but when you go to jump, the extra stretching might be too much and break it.

It is not really necessary that the ground act like a spring; this is just what I thought would be easiest to visualize. In fact you could push off water in a fairly similar way. All that matters is that the thing you push off has inertia, so that when you exert a force on it, it also exerts a force on you.

I think this topic may be confusing for students because the ground is doing no work, yet still exerts a force. The ground doesn't have any energy to use to push you up, so it may seem counterintuitive that the ground is the source of the force. The very word "exert" in the phrase "exert a force" makes us think of actively pushing or pulling like a person does, not sitting there letting things happen to you as the ground does. This is just something you need to get used to. Although in everyday language, we say "I forced the door open" or "I was forced against my will" and the word "force" refers to something that is moving or expending energy or exhibiting some sort of agency, that is not so in physics. The energy to jump comes from your legs (and other parts of your body), but the force comes from the ground.

A similar confusion often arises when students think about the force pushing forward a car driving at a constant speed on the road. Because wind resistance is slowing the car down, something must be pushing it forward to cancel that. Most students will say this is the "force of the engine". But in fact the force that pushes the car forward is the force of friction from the road. The engine does provide the energy, but the road provides the force, as you can learn if the road is very slick with ice and unable to provide sufficient friction force to push the car forward.

Your question details ask whether the force is ultimately electromagnetic. Yes, it is, but this is simply because almost every force we encounter in daily life besides that of gravity is electromagnetic. Molecules have complicated forces between and within them due to electromagnetic interactions of their electrons and nuclei. However, understanding macroscopic forces precisely in terms of microscopic ones is generally very difficult.