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People often express an idea that steam engines would be more efficient if they used a working fluid with a lower latent heat than water. I always thought that was a misconception because (so I thought) steam engines use the Rankine cycle, which is a closed thermodynamic cycle, so you get back all that energy when the fluid is condensed. A high latent heat means you can achieve a higher temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs (so I thought), which only makes the cycle more efficient.

However, reading about the history of steam locomotives, it seems that while early designs like Watt's did use condensers, the later ones don't, they just vent steam into the atmosphere at above atmospheric pressure, avoiding the weight and complexity of a condenser.

This makes me unsure whether water's high latent heat is a good thing or a bad thing for steam engines. If they used a closed cycle then a high latent heat would either be a good thing or make no difference, but since they use an open cycle this might not be the case.

I realise there are all sorts of other reasons why a working fluid besides water could be impractical, especially if you're venting it into the atmosphere on every cycle, but let's ignore those - if there was another fluid, exactly like water except that it had a somewhat lower latent heat, would a steam engine using this fluid be more or less efficient than one using water? (Assuming both engines are optimised for their respective working fluid but both use the same operating principle, venting the fluid on each cycle.)

There are some previous questions about other working fluids for steam engines, such as Why is steam a good working fluid for heat engines? and Could it be possible to create a pentane steam engine?, but neither mentions the issue that locomotives don't use a closed cycle, and neither has an answer that addresses this.

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  • $\begingroup$ Why not use the air that is needed for combustion itself as the working fluid? Jet aeroplanes and to a certain extent, petrol and diesel combustion cars use it just fine. You can just expel the burnt gases to atmosphere and so forth. And no need to worry about latent heat. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 25, 2023 at 8:54
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    $\begingroup$ Sorry, I could not answer your main question, but you did say that when you learned that steam locomotives don't recycle water, it made you unsure as to whether or not a closed cycle really was all that more efficient. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 25, 2023 at 12:20
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    $\begingroup$ I suggest posting this question to the engineering SE as well. The question covers both disciplines. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 25, 2023 at 15:21
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    $\begingroup$ @SolomonSlow ah, sorry for misunderstanding your comment. That's not quite what I meant to say in the question - I've edited it to try and make it more clear. $\endgroup$
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    $\begingroup$ @StevanV.Saban that's a good idea - I will cross post it there if it doesn't get a knowledgeable answer here. $\endgroup$
    – N. Virgo
    Commented Apr 26, 2023 at 1:36

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High latent heat is not necessarily beneficial. Neither to an open cycle nor to a closed cycle.

Lets assume two different working fluids evaporating at the same temperature, but one has a "high" latent heat and the other one has a "low" latent heat.

High latent heat in power cycles means high loss of exergy, because the working fluid's temperature remains constant during the phase change.

The exhaust gas has a lower heat capacity than the working fluid. In order to supply enough heat for the phase change, the temperature of the exhaust gas entering the heat exchanger needs to be higher for the working fluid with high latent heat than for the working fluid with low latent heat. However, the temperatures of the working fluids after evaporation are same. Thus, the former case used higher grade heat than the latter case. This is counter-productive, because you need the high grade heat to reach the highest possible temperature with your working fluid to achieve the best performance of your cycle.

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