Different Escape Velocities of Black Holes?

I am no physics major nor math major to this but merely an amateur cosmology enthusiast, so in my previous inquiries I wasn't able to find anything on the premise that if all black holes obviously have different masses (which we know they do, as all objects do), and we know that each black hole's gravitational pull exceeds the speed of light $$c$$ so my question being: is it possible the escape velocities of some black holes are quite possibly much greater than $$c$$ itself?

Let's say if there was "super light", light that goes $$10c$$ (10x the speed of normal light), is it possible that the gravity of some black holes could be so extreme that it would greatly exceed even $$10c$$? and beyond etc. Or do black holes only "defeat" light's escape velocity by just above $$c$$? If I am not understand it correctly, please feel free to correct, thanks.

• “Super light” has nothing to do with mainstream physics. Commented Apr 14, 2023 at 18:29
• The OP is not proposing non-mainstream physics. The "super light" hypothetical is just an attempt to understand how escape velocity near a black hole works according to standard GR. Commented Apr 15, 2023 at 1:16
• @PM2Ring We can incorporate all kinds of "magical devices" into our theories, but the only thing that comes out of that effort is intellectual nonsense. Th speed of light defines the geometry of causality in this universe. Breaking it means that causality breaks. What can a theory that behaves acausal tell us reliably about reality, which does not? Commented Apr 15, 2023 at 5:40
• @FlatterMann Ok, but Deadweed1 wasn't trying to incorporate some "magical device", they just wanted to talk about speeds > c. If you don't understand how spacetime geometry works, c just seems like some arbitrary mysterious restriction. FWIW, I have some relevant info on velocity in relativity here: physics.stackexchange.com/a/291346/123208 & physics.stackexchange.com/a/598415/123208 Commented Apr 15, 2023 at 7:00
• @PM2Ring I can build a perpetual motion machine by violating any of the three laws of thermodynamics. So what, though? Neither is "just" an arbitrary "mysterious" restriction. They are defining pieces of the theoretical description of systems near thermal equilibrium. c is a direct consequence of relativity. What do I get if I give up on relativity? Certainly nothing that resembles reality. Commented Apr 15, 2023 at 16:18

• @NuclearHoagie If you are just outside the event horizon, the only direction that light can escape is radially outwards. For all other directions it will end up "falling" back to the event horizon. As you move further away then the range of angles for which the light can escape will increase. Then for $r>3r_s/2$ light can escape in all directions that increase $r$, but not any for which $r$ decreases. This is completely un-Newtonian behaviour and is why talking about escape velocities or even escape speeds is hopeless/misleading for black holes. Commented Apr 17, 2023 at 15:39