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Choosing nice units, i.e $c=1$, the electromagnetic energy density is: $$u=\frac{1}{2}\left(\mathbf{E}^2+\mathbf{B}^2\right).$$ This is not Lorentz invariant, which makes sense since our nonrelativistic form of energy is not Lorentz invariant. However, the quantity: $$\mathbf{E}^2-\mathbf{B}^2$$ is Lorentz invariant. Furthermore, the Yang-Mills Lagrangian for $G=U(1)$ is (up to some sign/constant depending on your induced metric convention etc.):

$$L_{YM}=-\frac{1}{4}F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}=\frac{1}{2}(\mathbf{E}^2-\mathbf{B}^2),$$ which also makes sense since $L_{YM}$ should be gauge invariant and Lorentz invariant. So I assume there should be some physical meaning to this quantity as classical Lagrangians are often viewed as kinetic-potential. I am more mathematically inclined, and have little to no physical intuition, so if someone could spell this out for me that would be greatly appreciated.

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  • $\begingroup$ I'm not really convinced that "electric minus magnetic" has any less physical meaning than "kinetic minus potential" - can you expand on why you find the latter physically meaningful, but not the former? $\endgroup$
    – J. Murray
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    $\begingroup$ Isn't a Lagrangian physical enough? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 16, 2023 at 17:58
  • $\begingroup$ @JerroldFranklin Maybe? Idk I'm not good at physics $\endgroup$
    – Chris
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    $\begingroup$ "What is the physical significance..." It is the electromagnetic field lagrange density: physics.stackexchange.com/q/34241 $\endgroup$
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$E^2-B^2$ is always zero for the radiation part of the retarded field of a single point charged particle, or for simple plane or spherical wave of EM radiation far from the source.

But it is not zero near the source where the electric field is dominated by the Coulomb term and magnetic field is dominated by the corresponding term proportional to velocity of the charged particle (and thus, for small speeds, magnetic square is dominated by the electric square). Also, if we have a superposition of plane waves with different directions (including a standing wave), the difference of squares stops being zero in general.

So one "meaning" could be that it shows how "far" from a simple plane wave the EM field is.

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  • $\begingroup$ So what is the interpretation of integrating this “how far from a plane wave” quantity over all spacetime? $\endgroup$
    – Chris
    Commented Feb 9, 2023 at 21:14
  • $\begingroup$ That would be one possible action for free EM field. There isn't any more down-to-earth interpretation, these are just theoretical tools. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 9, 2023 at 23:54
  • $\begingroup$ As in other actions give the same result? $\endgroup$
    – Chris
    Commented Feb 10, 2023 at 0:10
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, Lagrangian and the corresponding action are not unique, there is infinity of possible functions. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 10, 2023 at 0:13
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I don't have a ready answer to what you're saying about one system when you mention it has twice as much $E^2-c^2B^2$ as another, but there is an obvious relevance to the sign of $E^2-c^2B^2$. If it's positive, $E>cB$; if it's negative, $E<cB$; if it's zero, $E=cB$ in all frames.

The other Lorentz invariant is $E\cdot B\propto\epsilon^{\mu\nu\rho\sigma}F_{\mu\nu}F_{\rho\sigma}$ (proportionality constant is an exercise). The fields are orthogonal iff it's $0$. If it is, you can choose a frame where the shorter vector is $0$; if not, you can't make either $0$.

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  • $\begingroup$ I mean we integrate this quantity over all space time, so does that integral have any physical significance? Similar to how the integral of $u$ over all spacetime is energy, I’m wondering if we can interpret this integral in someway as well. $\endgroup$
    – Chris
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    $\begingroup$ @Chris Well, now you're asking how to interpret the action. $\endgroup$
    – J.G.
    Commented Feb 9, 2023 at 20:52
  • $\begingroup$ Agreed, but we can deduce what the integral is from $u$ in the energy case, I was wondering if something similar is true here. $\endgroup$
    – Chris
    Commented Feb 9, 2023 at 21:03
  • $\begingroup$ Come to think of it, since you only want to integrate over space, I should have said you're asking how to interpret the Lagrangian. $\endgroup$
    – J.G.
    Commented Feb 9, 2023 at 21:35
  • $\begingroup$ Why do you only want to integrate over space? When I do Yang-Mills in a general setting, my action is the integral over the entirety of a smooth manifold $\endgroup$
    – Chris
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I will describe a less known but truly amazing network theorem discovered by Tellegen [1] with the hope that this physics group will find it interesting. It specifically pertains to lumped element circuits, and I follow Meixner [2].

Denote the impedance (admittance) of 1-port (2-pole) RLC network by $Z(p)$, $Y(p)=1/Z(p)$, and let the input voltage excitation be $u(t)$, such that $u(t) = 0$ for $t < 0$. Denote by $u_k(t)$ and $i_k(t)$ the $k^{th}$ branch voltage and current, resp. Then, using operator notation $p=\frac{d}{dt}$,$p'=\frac{d}{dt'}$, Tellegen proves that

$$\frac{1}{2}\frac{Y(p)-Y(p')}{p-p'}u(t)u(t') = \sum_k\frac{1}{2C_k}q_k(t)q_k(t')-\sum_k\sum_{\ell}\frac{1}{2}L_{k \ell}i_k(t)i_{\ell}(t') \tag{1}\label{1},$$

where $C_k$, $L_{kk}$ are the capacitance and inductance in the $k^{th}$ branch, and $L_{k\ell}$ is the mutual inductance of the $k^{th}$ and $\ell^{th}$ branches.

If you let $p'\to p$ $\eqref{1}$ turns in to $$\lim_{t'\to t}\frac{1}{2}\frac{Y(p)-Y(p')}{p-p'}u(t)u(t') = \sum_k\frac{1}{2C_k}q_k^2(t)-\sum_k\sum_{\ell}\frac{1}{2}L_{k \ell}i_k(t)i_{\ell}(t)\\ =W_e-W_m \tag{2}\label{2}$$

The right side is the difference between the stored electric and magnetic energies, the left side is a complicated linear integro-differential operator based on the admittance operator $Y(p)$ and is applied to something that depends on the outside excitation.

In other words the difference $W_e-W_m$ depends only on the excitation $u(t)$ and on the admittance $Y(p)$ it drives and not on the specific structure of the network having that very admittance.

What is surprising in this result is that the impedance (admittance) while it determines the dissipation inside the network it does not determine the sum of the stored (reactive) energies $W_e+W_m$. The best known example is to take a resistor $R$ and a capacitor $C$ in series forming $Z_1=R+\frac{1}{pC}$, and take a resistor $R$ and an inductor $L$ in series forming $Z_2=R+pL$. Now connect $Z_1$ and $Z_2$ in parallel so that we have their impedance $Z=\frac{Z_1Z_2}{Z_1+Z_2}$.

Now let $L=R^2C$, in this special case we get $Z=\frac{(R+pR^2C)(R+1/pC)}{R+pR^2C+R+1/pC}$ which after simplification gives $Z=R$. Nothing special about this so far but if you let the same voltage drop on the resistor $R$ by itself as on the same impedance RLC you will get the same total current through both and the same dissipation but with very different reactive energies. In the case of the resistor the reactive energies are zero, obviously, while the 4-element RLC network of impedance $R$ will have nonzero $W_e$ and nonzero $W_m$, both of the same size, $W_e -W_m=0$ as required.

So here is Tellegen's lumped element invariance principle: all networks that have the same impedance will have the same $W_e-W_m$.

[1] Tellegen: A general network theorem with applications, Phillips Research Reports, 1952, pp259-269

[2] Meixner: Network Theory and Its Relation to the Theory of Linear Systems, IRE Trans Ant. Prop. December 1959 pp435-439

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  • $\begingroup$ I’m not sure if you put this in the right place or not as I don’t know how it pertains to gauge theory and EM $\endgroup$
    – Chris
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    $\begingroup$ Honestly, I do not know, but neither do I believe in coincidences. Tellegen's theorem is electromagnetics. @JanLalinsky's answer gave me the idea to write this because the near field of a radiating structure, antenna, can be represented by lumped elements. In its simplest case a linear dipole is mostly "capacitive" while a loop dipole is mostly "magnetic", etc. And again, note the analogy: the invariant quantity is the difference of electric and magnetic energies, the varying quantity is their sum. $\endgroup$
    – hyportnex
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In 4-space with metric $+ - - -$ and the standard 4-grandient and 4-potential $A$, indeed $(E/c)^2 - B^2$ is Lorentz invariant. However, this is only a linear algebra identity. The outer product of any Lorentz invariant $(1,0)$ tensor with any $(0,1)$ tensor is a $(1,1) $tensor $(4x4 matrix) M$. Forming $F = M - Mt$ ($t$ = transpose) and defining $B$ and $E$ as from selected combinations of entries in $F$ (as if the $4$-grandient and $A$ came from Liénard–Wiechert potentials) leads to invariance of $(E/c)^2 - B^2$. This has nothing to do with physics or partial differential equations. It is purely a consequence of the tensor algebra. Much worse, if someone constructs a $1$ cm square duct with perpendicular $E (1000 V/m) $ and $B$ (1 Tesla), the Poynting power flux $E\times B$ should be $> 7000$ Watts. These E and B values could be obtained with a car battery and a permanent magnet. Poynting power flux and Maxwell energy density $(E/c)^2 + B^2$ are no good. And there's more... I think $E$ and $B$ are historical constructs (from early static electricity observations and apparently "static" permanent magnets) that should be abandoned in favour of the four-potential $A$, wave equations, and Lorentz transformations. In particular, phooey on $(E/c)^2 - B^2$.

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