# If there is no collapse of the wave-function does this mean that the many worlds interpretation of QM must be wrong?

If as some people suggest, there is no collapse of the wave function (is there a standard name for this position), then must one rule out the many-worlds interpretation of QM?

• I would claim, that exactly the opposite is true: If there is no such thing as a collapse, we will have the macroscopic superpositions aka many worlds. The many-worlds-interpretation precisely arises from the assumption, that there is no collapse. – Daniel Sep 25 '14 at 17:32
• @Daniel:yes, I'd agree with you; I can't recall now what prompted me to ask this question... – Mozibur Ullah Sep 25 '14 at 17:47

The term "collapse of the wave function" is impressive but carries little mathematical meaning other than labeling a specific measurement with it.

At the quantum mechanical level everything is described by the probability of manifesting a real valued measurement at a specific (x,y,z,t) with specific energy momentum and quantum numbers. All these are proscribed by a mathematical formula, called a wavefunction, which is a solution of a specific to the problem potential, in a quantum mechanical differential equation describing the physical status.The square of the wave function gives the probability distribution.

When a measurement is made, it means that the differential system has to change, since an interaction, depending on the type of measurement, is inevitable. This introduces a change in the differential formulation of the problem. Thus after the measurement a different wave function will describe the set up, as the measurement changed the system. This is the famous collapse, that that specific wave function no longer holds, a new one has to be calculated.

Since the wave function leads to a probability distribution, which is a classical concept too, not distinguishable from the quantum, contemplate the probability distribution of a young person to enter the university after exams. There exists a geographic probability distribution over the country of how many succeed and how many fail . This means that a multitude of data has been used from previous exams to create the distribution. If a specific young person is successful, does this change the probability distribution in general? It just changes his/her probability to 1 and he/she has to face a new situation with new probability distributions that will shape his/her future.

In a similar way the "collapse" means that the probability is 1 after the measurement that the particle was in that specific (x,y,z,t) etc and a new probability distribution has to apply to a new situation from a new wave function. The old wave function still mathematically exists, but is irrelevant to the evolution of the situation.

In any theory that is consistent with quantum mechanical postulates the above holds so if the many world interpretation is consistent with quantum mechanics, it will have no problem from the semantics of "collapse", which sounds a lot more drastic than it is.

EDIT: The people who are saying there is no collapse are saying what I am discussing above, that collapse is a semantic for describing probability distributions and their use in measurements in the microcosm. It is the Copenhagen interpretation.

Saying :it collapses to a single eigenstate, presupposes a superposition of several eigenstates, so that when one specific Energy/momentum and quantum numbers state is found a single eigenstate has been defined. That does not mean that the mathematical form of the original superposed wave function is defunct, it is always there, it just becomes irrelevant for the future of the specific problem. It will apply for other experiments. A probability distribution applies for innumerable experiments. The "collapse" picks up one probability value from the initial wave function which since the measurement exists, is 1. The final wave function will be different because the problem has changed.

Take this simple elementary particle interaction in a bubble chamber Part of a bubble chamber picture (Fermilab'15 foot Bubble Chamber', found at the University of Birmingham). The curly line which turns to the left is an electron. Positron looks similar but turn to the right The magnetic field is perpendicular to the picture plane.

A photon is coming in on the right hits the field of nucleus : there is a specific wave function that gives the probable course of this photon when it meets the electric field of the nucleus. In this measurement it creates an electron positron pair. In this measurement the probability of an electron positron pair to exist is one, whereas it was very small according to the wave function, which still exists and holds for the innumerable photons coming down the pipe. After the materialization a completely new wave function is needed to describe what the nucleus, the electron and the positron are doing quantum mechanically.

The many worlds interpretation would posit that all the probable outcomes of this simple interaction of a single photon with a nucleus exist in other worlds. Disregarding the enormous complexity of such a proposal if one expects all those worlds to be real , it is not different from saying that the mathematical wave function exists, giving all the possible/probable paths/measurements.