# Example of information travelling faster than the speed of light?

In the following situation, information seems to travel faster than the speed of light. Is there a mistake in my reasoning?

Suppose we have an electric circuit. For times $$t<0$$, there is no current in the circuit. Starting at $$t=0$$, the current is turned on. This will take a short time $$\delta$$. We say that $$I(t)=f(t)$$ for $$t\in[0,\delta]$$, where $$f$$ is a continuous function with $$f(0)=0$$ and $$f(\delta)=1$$. For $$t\geq\delta$$, we keep the current constant at $$I(t)=1$$. We take $$\delta$$ smaller than $$1$$ millisecond.

In the time intervals $$t\in(-\infty,0)$$ and $$t\in(\delta,\infty)$$, the current is constant. Therefore, we can use the law of Biot-Savart: $$\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r})=\frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int_C\frac{Id\mathcal{l}\times\mathbf{r}'}{|\mathbf{r}'|^3}.$$ For $$t<0$$, this gives us $$\mathbf{B}=0$$ everywhere.

For $$t>\delta$$, however, this will induce a nonzero magnetic field in (almost) all of space.

Now consider an observer which is 1000 kilometers away from the circuit. As we saw before, there is no magnetic field here for $$t<0$$, but at $$t>\delta$$ there is a nonzero magnetic field. It doesn't matter what happens for $$t\in[0,\delta]$$. The point is that at time $$\delta$$, the observer will know that 1000 kilometers away from him, something has happened. So in $$\delta$$ time, information has been transferred over a distance of 1000 kilometers. But since we chose $$\delta$$ smaller than a millisecond, this means that the information has travelled with a speed larger than $$10^9ms^{-1}$$. This is faster than the speed of light.

• When you invoke magnetostatics, you are already assuming the speed of light to be infinite. There is no way to derive the Biot-Savart law from Maxwell's equations without doing this. Jun 15, 2022 at 15:50
• That's why the complete description makes use of "retarded potentials" which incorporate information travelling at the speed of light. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retarded_potential Jun 15, 2022 at 15:52
• After assuming the steady state has been reached at all points of interest. Jun 15, 2022 at 16:05
• Biot-Savart is only valid in the static limit. If you have a time-dependent current you have to use the full Maxwell equations and you'll see that the propagation of the EM field travels at $c$. Jun 15, 2022 at 16:10
• Probably because the title makes you sound like a crackpot. P.S. You know you could make the exact same argument with the "instantaneous" gravitational force $GM_1m_2/|r_1 - r_2|$ or the "instantaneous" electrostatic force, etc.
– hft
Jun 15, 2022 at 16:40

No, you cannot use the Biot Savart law in this situation. The Biot Savart law is derived from the magnetostatic assumption. That is, the assumption that $$dJ/dt=0$$ which is not a valid assumption in your case.
In the time intervals $$t\in(-\infty,0)$$ and $$t\in(\delta,\infty)$$, the current is constant.
Here you seem to be aware of this limitation, but have the mistaken impression that $$dJ/dt=0$$ means just over some finite time. The magnetostatic approximation is that $$dJ/dt=0$$ over all of space and all of time. Only in that case can the Biot Savart law be derived from Maxwell’s equations.
So in this problem, at $$1 \mathrm{\ ms}$$ after the end of the current change the Biot Savart law will only be a good approximation for distances much smaller than $$300 \mathrm{\ km}$$. Obviously $$1000 \mathrm{\ km}$$ is not much smaller than $$300 \mathrm{\ km}$$ so the magnetostatic assumption is not valid and therefore Biot Savart is not applicable.