# Can a gas sustain a negative pressure?

My textbook states that liquids (say water for example) can sustain "negative pressures" because of their intermolecular attractive forces. The text depicts this concept with the following image

The author then also states that "in gases, pressure can only be positive". This statement gives me problems though. If the attractive intermolecular forces of a liquid are what allow liquids to sustain negative pressures, then surely real gases (as opposed to ideal gases) can in fact sustain negative pressure because the molecules in a real gas can be either attractive (when their internal pressure is positive: $$\pi_T>0$$) or repulsive (when $$\pi_T < 0$$). The case when $$\pi_T>0$$, meaning attractive intermolecular forces, should in theory allow for gases to sustain negative pressures? Is this true? Can gasses sustain negative pressures just like liquids (albeit at a reduced strength relative to liquids)?

• I suspect that gases condense to liquids precisely when the attractive forces become strong enough to make negative pressures possible. Thus gases cannot sustain a negative pressure because any gas that could immediately condenses to a liquid. But proving this is going to be tricky. Aug 3, 2021 at 11:41
• @JohnRennie A gas above its critical temperature cannot condense. Aug 3, 2021 at 12:16
• A liquid cannot sustain a pressure less than its equilibrium vapor pressure without forming a 2nd phase. In the picture, even though the liquid pressure may be less than atmospheric, it is still under positive absolute pressure. Thus, although the gauge pressure may be negative, the absolute pressure is positive. Aug 3, 2021 at 12:42
• @ChetMiller Gauge pressure is not an issue. The picture correctly depicts a situation with absolute negative pressure. The parallel with solids is also correct. However, .. there is a however. I'll try to explain with an answer. But I can't do it immediately. I'll be back to this problem in a few hours. Aug 3, 2021 at 12:52
• In the diagram in the question, the piston could also be held up if the chamber was filled with a gas. It is atmospheric pressure exerting a force on the outside of the piston which keeps it up. Aug 3, 2021 at 15:36

The key point with negative pressure states of solids and liquids is that they are metastable with respect to a stable liquid-vapor (or solid-vapor) phase coexistence. However, nucleation processes driving the system towards the stable state may be very inefficient, and the metastable state may last unperturbed for hours or days. Each liquid has a lower limit for negative pressures. Below that limit, the metastable state becomes unstable, and cavitation (i.e., the formation of vapor bubbles) becomes unavoidable. Notice, however, that the negative pressure limit may reach values of $$-100$$ MPa (for water). Obviously, such values are genuine negative values of the absolute pressure (no gauge pressure).