# Can electric field pass through a charge particle so that the charge particle behind the one can get energy?

Can an electric field pass through a charged particle? As the field is energetic it would get absorbed by charge as I think 🤔. Let assume that there are two electrons one behind the other such that it seems like one electron in front is blocking the electric field to reach that electron behind. Would that charge be able to get that electric field? Answer this question so that I can ask another question related to it.

I guess you are misunderstanding the concept of the electric field, let me help you.

The electric field is not like a fluid that collide with obstacles and change its propagation after it.

Any field (electric, gravitational or magnetic) are a region of space where at each point there is a single well-defined value of a given physical magnitude. This fields are originated by the presence of a charge in some region and the range of the field that they create vanish at infinite distances from the charge. This can be seen in the equation of the electric field created by a pointlike electric positive charge: $$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi \varepsilon_0 r^2}\vec{u_{r}}$$, where $$\varepsilon_0$$ is the electrical permittivity in the vacum and $$r$$ the distance from the charge $$q$$.

Answering your question: no, a charge will never absorb the electric field because it is a magnitude that depends on the point $$r$$. Any charge placed at a non-infinite distance of the first charge will feel the electric field with a intensity given by the later equation.

• But electric field contains energy and if it is not absorbed and can apply force on other charge after being absorbed by some charge then we will get more energy output. Jun 26, 2021 at 13:25
• The energy of the system can be defined when it exists more than one particle on it. If you have only one particle there only exists the field $\vec{E}$, or the potential $V$. Nevertheless when you have a system of more than one particle you can talk about forces $\vec{F}=q_2\vec{E}$, or the potential energy $E_p=q_2 V$. So, the energy in the electric field is not absorbed or emited by anything, the energy is a quantity defined due to the interaction of multibody systems on each point of space, and interacting particles can take advantage of this interactions to move through the field. Jun 26, 2021 at 15:27
• "The electric field is not like a fluid that collide with obstacles and change its propagation after it." Actually, if your fluid is inviscid & incompressible, then its field equation is Laplace's equation (same as for the electric field). Jun 26, 2021 at 18:04
• Thank you for pointing this out. I intented to make an analogy with a "real fluid" Jun 26, 2021 at 21:11
• First of all nothing like phyiscal fluid is described here by me. If someone says, "no, a charge will never absorb the electric field " then, i would ask," the electric fields strength helps us determine the amount of energy passing through a certain region in space. And when you provide that region with a charges (that is free to move), the charge will get accelerated and hence will also store some energy in its motion. This means that electric fields strength must decrease so as to ensure law of conservation of energy" Oct 15, 2021 at 1:13

Current answers seem to focus on static fields, while the question seems to be about incident propagating fields. I'll try to address this (purely classically). Whether one thinks of electric fields as something corporeal or not, processes akin to what you describe happen constantly (if only partially) in conductors and dielectrics, but it's certainly not the case that a propagating electric field gets "absorbed" entirely whenever it encounters a charge, or else light could never propagate through the atmosphere.

If an electromagnetic wave were incident along an axis containing two free charges somehow arranged to be initially at rest the instant the incoming wave reaches the first charge, the response of the first would certainly impact the response of the second: the first accelerates in response to the varying field, causing it to generate its own radiation which interferes with the original wave, and one could think of the adjustment to the net propagating field as meaning the first charge partially "absorbed" the incident wave. But exactly how things play out would depend in a complicated way on the incoming wave-- its frequency, amplitude, and breadth. What can be said quite confidently is that it could not cancel the incoming field completely.

Remember that E&M is linear and hence has the superposition principle: one can think of the dynamics as the incident wave continuing on exactly as it would in the absence of the charges, plus the perturbation of whatever fields the charges generate as they move. Generally speaking, a single charge won't be able to muster much of a perturbation, so for the most part the wave would continue on on its merry way. Only with systems of charges responding en masse in an uninhibited manner can you get effective screening against propagating fields, as in a Faraday cage.

• This dosen't work if i am right. Let me explain. Try to visualise the Coulombs law, it says that the to check the strength of electric field(which provides energy) extend outwards making radially(showing spherical structure). And to find the total strength on any of the test charge we draw a conical shape extended to the test charge BUT if you try to make re extended a conical structure from the charge thag is absorbing energy you'll get a much smaller amount of energy reched to charge behind due to re-release. Jun 26, 2021 at 18:10
• I will make another question showing that with an image Jun 26, 2021 at 18:11
• physics.stackexchange.com/questions/647963/… this is link for that what i was talking Jun 26, 2021 at 19:10
• @PredakingAskboss It seems the scenario you have in mind is quite different from it seemed through my reading of this question (you weren't discussing propagating waves after all). I've answered that question in an attempt to clarify the misalignment of your image with standard E&M. Jun 26, 2021 at 20:44

Your point about "blocking" electric field is interesting in that what you suggest is similar in concept to electron shielding or screening, where outer shell electrons are partially shielded or "blocked" from the attractive force of the protons in the nucleus. This is actually caused by inner shell electrons, and the electric field of the nucleus is reduced. Figure: Electron shielding is due to the blocking of valence shell electron attraction by the nucleus, due to the presence of inner-shell electrons. The interior electron cloud (light blue) shielding the outer electron of interest from the full attractive force of the nucleus. A larger shielding effect results in a decrease in ionization energy.

In an electric field, the field lines are not really "passing through" the charges as you have suggested, but they feel a force, and are accelerated by the field. But they don't really "absorb" the field since the field is unchanged before and after interaction with charged particles in the field (they do change their energy when interacting with the field).

The electric field is a region of space where a charged particle experiences a force at any point in that region. Assuming we ignore the electric fields of the individual charges$$^1$$ in the larger electric field $$\vec E$$, the location of one charge relative to another, or if we have "one behind the other", is irrelevant and both charges will still experience a force that depends on their location. The electric field (force per unit charge) is given by $$\vec E=\frac{Q}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r^2} \frac{\vec r}{\mid \vec r\mid}$$ where $$Q$$ is the charge causing the field and $$\vec r$$ is the location of the charges, and for simplicity assume that if we had individual charges $$q$$ in the field, then $$Q\gg q$$.

$$^1$$ Individual charges will have electric fields that affect each other, but here we are considering the effect of one large central charge on unit charges in that field.

• You said "there is no electric field passing through" first of all electric fields do have a velocity which they will travel and they also have energy which is told in poynting theorem. So if the work dones by a source charge on a q charge is because of energy in the form of electric field released by it and absorbed by q. If the charge behind can still get energy which would mean that the energy was not completely absorbed by q or there is nothing like energy as physical thing to do with electric field Jun 26, 2021 at 13:31
• @PredakingAskboss see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_potential_energy Jun 26, 2021 at 14:16
• Do field have a real physical significance as it is said that they have energy stored which means they really exist and are not imaginary Jun 26, 2021 at 14:38
• they are a mathematical representation of the effect of a charge particle on charged particles that fits all data up to now. Jun 26, 2021 at 14:46
• Hi! You may find my question here interesting @PredakingAskboss Jun 26, 2021 at 14:56

It depends:

1. A single unit of charge, located at fixed point in space will generate a field on its own, which will superimpose itself on a pre-existing field, hence it will influence the local field, but it will not have a shielding effect, it will merely add its own contribution to the global field.

For instance, when calculating the electric field resulting from a homogeneous spherical charge distribution (Maxwell $$+$$ Gauss), the contribution of the successive layers simply add up, hence the resulting field is the sum of all the elementary contributions, there is no shielding effect from a layer to the next.

In the preceding examples, however, all the masses are regarded as fixed in space, therefore the formulation of the problem is essentially static as if said charges were held in place by some magic glue.

1. In practice, however, charges can be found in insulators, conductors, semiconductors, plasmas.

In the case of conductors, the free electrons will tend to have a shielding effect as in the Faraday cage.

• If a spherical (quasi-homogeneous) distribution of charge is build by stacking a large amount of charged concentric hollow spherical conductors (insulated from each other) of increasing diameter (like a Russian doll), every shell will shield the outer world from the charges contained in the other inner spheres it encloses and the only sphere contributing to the field outside the stack of spheres will be the contribution of the outermost shell.

• In this last example, the shielding effect, however, is not due to the individual charges, as such, but to their ability to move freely inside each individual hollow sphere. This is a collective effect of the free electrons.

• Another exemple if provided by Bragg diffraction: An electromagnetic wave (e.g. X-rays) will be reflected by a cristalline matrix (e.g.diamond) if the geometry meets the Bragg conditions. In this case again, it is some collective behavior of the electrons of the atoms of the crystalline matrix which is responsible for the reflection, not the charges individually.

Yes, in the same way that the Earth's gravity can get to you through the chair you're sitting on.

There will also be an electric force between the two particles, dependent on their charge + distance, but the Coulomb forces all just add linearly for stationary charged particles, just like gravitational forces add linearly.

An electric field between two plates for example is created by large amounts of charged particles in each plate, many of them cancelling each other out (e.g. neutral atoms with equal numbers of each), but at least to a good approximation, everything just adds linearly.

(Electromagnetism and gravitation are different fundamental forces and behave differently in some ways, not just in terms of having different "charges" (electric vs. mass). e.g. accelerating charges create radio waves somewhat differently from how accelerating masses create gravity waves. But they're the same in this respect, and I think this is a useful analogy.)

Can an electric field pass through a charged particle? … Would that charge be able to get that electric field?

Definitely, yes. Maxwell’s equations are linear in the fields. This means that the principle of superposition applies and the field at any point is equal to the sum of the fields from all of the charges. Charges do not “block” the electromagnetic field.

Now, other answers have mentioned screening effects, and they are not wrong. Screening effects are not an example of the field being blocked, but rather an example of a field in the opposite direction being provided. For example, if you have a positive charge you get one field, and if you have a negative charge close to the positive one its field is almost opposite. So if you have both then they nearly cancel out and you are left with almost no field. Not because one absorbed the field of the other, but because they simply added together to make a small total field.

As the field is energetic it would get absorbed by charge as I think 🤔. Let assume that there are two electrons one behind the other such that it seems like one electron in front is blocking the electric field to reach that electron behind.

As in your previous question, to understand energy conservation in EM you must understand Poynting’s theorem. For a charge to absorb energy from the field requires that $$\vec E \cdot \vec J$$ must be greater than 0. If the charges are all stationary, then $$\vec J=0$$ so no work is done. Only if the middle charge moves would some of the energy not be available to reach the last charge.