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In chapter 6 of "Charge and Energy Transfer Dynamics in Molecular Systems", the authors consider diatomic molecules in contact with a heat bath. We have established before that the nuclear coordinates $R$ are quantum mechanical and can be described in the adiabatic (Born-Oppenheimer) approximation. In this approximation, the nuclear motion is governed by the Hamiltonian

$$ H_{nuc} = T_{nuc}(R)+V_{nuc-nuc}(R)+E_a(R),$$

where $E_a$ is the ($R$-dependent) eigenvalue of the electronic Hamiltonian,

$$ \big(T_{el}+V_{el-el}+V_{nuc-el}(R) \big)\phi_a(r,R)=E_a(R)\phi_a(r,R).$$

Usually, the potential term in $H_{nuc}$ has a local minimum and can be Taylor expanded to yield a harmonic oscillator problem. The nuclear eigenfunctions can be approximated by the eigenfunctions of the harmonic oscillator.

Now the authors claim that if the temperature is much larger than the oscillator energy $k_B T >>\hbar \omega$, the molecule coordinates can be treated classically, which means in this case that they are localized at a certain value $R$, following the statistical distribution

$$P(R)=\frac{1}{Z} e^{-(V_{nuc-nuc}(R)+E_a(R))/k_B T} \tag{1}$$

(This also happens in a lot of molecular dynamics simulations: The molecular coordinates are localized and follow classical trajectories.)

Question: Why are the nuclear coordinates localized like this?

Naively, I would have expected that the nuclear system is described by the reduced density operator (Gibbs ensemble) $\rho=\frac{1}{Z} e^{-H_{nuc}/k_B T}$. There, the nuclei would occupy eigenstates of $H_{nuc}$, with the probability depending on the energy of that state. Clearly the eigenstates are delocalized across the whole harmonic potential, especially for high energy states.

Edit: I would like to point out another disparity between the QM and classical descriptions: The statistical operator $\rho$ does not evolve in time since $[H_{nuc},\rho]=0$ (neglecting non-adiabatic processes). The classical coordinates however oscillate with frequency $\omega$.

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    $\begingroup$ One important thing to point out here is that when you have a mixed state (represented by a density matrix), there are uncountably infinitely many possible empirically equivalent ensembles of pure states that correspond to it. Mathematically, this is just a change of basis of the density matrix. I believe this has something to do with the answer here. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 27, 2021 at 2:05
  • $\begingroup$ Yes I think so too. Would be great to see the details. $\endgroup$
    – curio
    Commented Apr 27, 2021 at 9:56

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The statement that "the molecules behave (approximately) classically" is really just saying that the classical statistical ensemble gives (approximately) the same results as the quantum Gibbs ensemble for any physically measurable quantity. So the claim is not that the quantum system doesn't approach the quantum Gibbs ensemble, only that it isn't necessary to do the full quantum analysis of the system because the classical ensemble will give the same result.

It may not be immediately obvious why the classical ensemble gives the same results as the quantum ensemble when they are constructed in very different ways (probability distribution in phase space, vs. probability distribution over eigenstates). I don't have a particularly satisfying answer to that; I think that the origins of classical-quantum correspondence in statistical mechanics is quite a subtle issue to really understand.

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  • $\begingroup$ I think this answer is correct, but if someone else could provide the details why the descriptions are equivalent, that would be nice. $\endgroup$
    – curio
    Commented Apr 27, 2021 at 9:58
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In a simplified diatomic molecule model approximation electronic and nuclear motions can essentially be treated independently because of the small ratio of the electron mass with respect to the nuclear mass $m_e/M_{nucl}\simeq 10^{-3}-10^{-5}$. The translational motion can be separated by introducing the centre of mass, which moves as a free particle. The other motions involved are the vibrational and the rotational ones. In the high temperature limit, it can be shown that the quantum (q) vibrational and rotational partition functions tend to the classical ones (c). $$Q_{vib}^{q}=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}e^{-\beta \hbar \omega(n+1/2)}=\frac{e^{-\beta \hbar \omega/2}}{1-e^{-\beta \hbar \omega}}\rightarrow Q_{vib}^{c}=\frac{kT}{\hbar\omega}$$

The quantum rotational partition function can be written using the allowed values of the angular momentum: $$Q_{rot}^{q}=\sum_{l=0}(2l+1)e^{-\beta \hbar^2 l(l+1)/2I}$$

For sufficiently high values of $T$, the terms in this equation vary slowly and the sum can be replaced by an integral of the form $$Q_{rot}^{q}\rightarrow \int_{0}^{\infty}dx \ (2x+1)e^{-\beta \hbar^2 x(x+1)/2I}=\frac{2I kT}{\hbar^2}=Q_{rot}^{c}$$

Determining the temperature at which molecules begin to behave classically requires some complicated calculations, in general it depends on the specific volume $v_s=V/N$ available to the molecule and on the thermal volume $v_t=\lambda^3$ (or also De Broglie thermal wavelenght cubed). We get the classical regime when $v_s>v_t$.

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  • $\begingroup$ I don't think its enough to establish that the partition function approaches the classical one. How does it follow that we can replace the statistical operator by the distribution (1)? $\endgroup$
    – curio
    Commented May 3, 2021 at 9:10
  • $\begingroup$ Its a good point though, so you get the bounty. $\endgroup$
    – curio
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 19:14
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This answer won't be very technical, but I'll try to be helpful with a rather elementary explanation that is intuitive. If the gasses particles all have high kinetic energy (also just known as heat/temperature), then they will more or less collied with each other perfectly elastically. If the gas particles had lower kinetic energy, then the particles' Van der Waals forces (Dipole attractions and/or dispersion forces) could cause the particles to stick together, making the collision somewhat inelastic. Liquids consist of inelastic collisions.

When particles are colliding perfectly elastically, we can predict them quite well with statistical models, such as the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution.

I hope this helps, let me know if you need any clarification.

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