# Would dimples help a ping pong ball travel faster?

Dimples are used on golf balls to promote the formation of a turbulent boundary layer that stays with the ball longer as it travels through the air, therefore greatly decreasing the pressure drag experienced by the ball. The increased skin friction drag created by the dimples on the ball's surface is very small compared to the pressure drag reduction that it benefits from; therefore, the overall drag decreases as a result of the dimples. This is useful because a golf ball needs to travel far distances with a potentially large amount of air resistance. Conversely, an airplane does not need dimples on its wings or body because it is already aerodynamic in shape (instead of blunt-faced like the golf ball) and therefore the pressure drag is already reduced such that adding dimples would actually increase the skin friction more than it would decrease the pressure drag, and the overall drag on the airplane would likely increase as a result.

My question is, based on this knowledge, would ping pong balls travel faster as a result of adding dimples? Would they benefit from dimples at all? They have a similar size and shape but much smaller mass than golf balls, which is where my uncertainty comes from.

• It's a lot more about avoiding spin-related deviation from straight-line motion than about speed. Nov 30, 2020 at 15:44

You are mostly correct that the dimples on a golf ball reduce its drag by promoting transition from laminar to turbulent flow, which reduces the size of the separated wake behind the ball. But that doesn't mean that a different ball would benefit in a similar way.

The Reynolds number (Density * Speed * Diameter / Viscosity) has to be within a certain range for the benefit to occur. At smaller values, the dimples (or other roughness) wouldn't be enough of a disturbance to cause transition, and at higher values the flow would be turbulent without them.

To see whether ping pong balls would benefit from dimples, we need to compare their speeds and diameters with those of golf balls. A quick Internet search found that golf balls travel at something like 80.5 m/s and have a diameter of about 42.6mm, whereas the numbers for ping pong balls are about 30 m/s and 40mm. Comparing the Reynolds numbers gives about 240,000 for a golf ball and 80,000 for a ping pong ball.

The figure below (taken from Fluid Dynamic Drag by S. Hoerner) plots experimental drag measurements for spheres as functions of Reynolds number, and shows a dramatic change in shape at Reynolds numbers in the transitional region between 100,000 and 1,000,000.

The next figure (from the same source) zooms in more closely to our region of interest, and shows that the ping pong ball's Reynolds number of about 80,000 is just below the beginning of the transitional region, thus indicating that it would not be likely to benefit from adding dimples.

The main difference is that a ping-pong ball travels a much shorter distance over a much shorter time. Initial velocity is a function only of its mass and the bat's hitting power. At the end of its very short flight of a second or less, its final velocity is not a major factor and it does not have time to slow down significantly enough to matter.

Spin probably also comes in to it, but I don't know enough about golf to comment.

• Are you sure about this? I thought the very opposite. Having played golf, I would attest that spin is very much part of a shot (fade and hook for direction, backspin for range). I thought the dimples aided this by providing friction with the air (cf. the fur on a tennis ball, the rough surface on a football or basketball). I would think a ping-pong ball is so light that it doesn't need dimples - the tiny amount of friction from the surface is adequate. Nov 30, 2020 at 11:57
• @OscarBravo You know more about golf than I do, then. I'll delete the second part of my answer, as I evidently cannot make informed comparisons. Nov 30, 2020 at 14:18
• In my opinion, you don't want a ping pong ball to travel faster. When you "slam" a ping pong ball, you have to put a LOT of top spin on it to make it drop on the table on the other side of the net. If it traveled much faster, it would be somewhat "easier" to hit that "slam" too far and miss the ping pong table. Nov 30, 2020 at 15:39
• I think the dimples make a huge difference in spin for the putative pingpong ball. Yes, speed is another matter. Nov 30, 2020 at 15:43