# Are there theories about the end of the universe where time ends?

We always tend to think that future will come no matter how far in the future that is. But according to some theories, time started at the big bang and the term "before the big bang" doesn't make any sense just like going to north does not make any sense when you are at the north pole. But there is also the south pole where going to further south makes no sense. So are there theories which implies that there is a future point where time ends and going into further future doesn't make any sense ? And if there are theories like these, what are those theories? I know that there is a theory according to which after a finite amount of time the expansion rate becomes infinite and it creates a singularity everywhere and space together with time just rips apart and time ends. So I want to know about other theories.

• I have voted to close this question because "are there theories like this?" either 1) Has a simple "yes or no" answer, or 2) will attract various answers that include different theories, thus giving rise to a question without a single accepted answer, which is against the SE Q&A model (i.e. IMO this is a list question). Perhaps you could edit the question to ask about a specific concept in such a theory you are confused about? Nov 13 '20 at 12:59
• I edited the question so that it becomes much more specific about the question I am trying to ask. Can you please review the edit. Nov 13 '20 at 17:45

A description in which spacetime comes back to a situation like the south pole in your question is the possibility in general relativity called "Big Crunch". We don't think the universe will do this (the matter density is not high enough) but you asked if there were models which allowed that sort of thing. The Big Crunch is in some respects like spacetime curving round on itself like the south pole of a sphere, so that there is no longer any direction called "south". However, it does not necessarily follow that the question "what comes after?" loses its meaning in a Big Crunch. Rather, in the conditions of the crunch, when the scale factor of spacetime has become small and the density large, our understanding of physics runs out and we do not know how to predict or even describe what the conditions are. So we just don't know if the concept of "future" ceases to have validity. Maybe it does, maybe it does not.

More generally, the human race does not have the data to answer a question like "will future always exist?". I suspect we do not have the intellectual capacity either. We can propose theoretical models, but all will reach a regime where there is no longer good reason for confidence that they still apply.

Currently the model believed by many is that matter will first get captured into black holes and then these will evaporate and then everything just fades into an expanding dust, expanding forever and doing nothing. But who knows? This model might be profoundly wrong. You can also find speculations about new bursts of "life" (that is, new patches of spacetime and matter undergoing a fresh big-bang-like behaviour) going on and on forever. Or perhaps the universe as we know it is in a state called "false vacuum" and the whole thing can get transformed by something like a phase transition. Or perhaps another type of transformation can happen.

Part of the aim of this answer is to reduce the level of confidence that readers place in whatever was the latest description they read which pronounced with confidence on questions concerning an ultimate future.

• I think you misunderstood OP's question. It asks: "Are there other theories like this?" and that's a perfectly good question and doesn't need a reduction of confidence. Nov 13 '20 at 9:17
• @MauroGiliberti Thanks. I see what you mean and will modify my answer a bit. Nov 13 '20 at 9:19

From your question, I reckon you don't want a too-in-depth answer. Please correct me if you want some equations to make sense of what I write.

This is a diagram widely used in cosmology. Roughly, you can see $$\Omega_M$$ as the matter density, and $$\Omega_\Lambda$$ as the Dark Energy density. There are various theories that try to explain what the universe might look like in the future.
The theory you were talking about (I presume) is what is commonly know as "Big Rip", and is represented by the dashed line on top. The universe never slows down its expansion, and eventually every particle will become a separate system unable to interact with every other one. In some sense, you can say that "there is no future", but please try not to use these kinds of expression while talking physics, as they can be really opinion-based.
The other probably interesting theory for your question is the dash-dot line at the bottom: it describes a "Big Crunch" and while this currently doesn't seem to have a lot of interest, it surely did when physicists were trying to figure out various models. If the matter density $$\Omega_M$$ is big, greater than one, the universe should slow down and eventually start contracting back until everything becomes really close. In some sense, this can also be seen as a "no-future scenario".
Lastly, you could just dive into a (non-rotating) black hole. You should reach its center in a finite amount of time and (while probably dying) you can't do anything else, ever, from there. So, again, no-future scenario.

• What you describe as the Big Rip is more correctly regarded as the "heat death" of the Universe. In the Big Rip proper, that upper line eventually hits a sharp endpoint where the forces driving it rip apart the fabric of spacetime itself. Nov 13 '20 at 9:45
• @GuyInchbald I beg to disagree. In the Big Rip scenario, "A steady increase in the Hubble constant to infinity would result in all material objects in the universe, starting with galaxies and eventually (in a finite time) all forms, no matter how small, disintegrating into unbound elementary particles". Nov 13 '20 at 9:51
• @MauroGilberti See for example the Wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rip - it is explicit that "the structure [of spacetime] is 'ripped apart'". Yes, matter does decay into elementary particles, but that is just the heat death - the Big Rip does not end there. Nov 13 '20 at 9:57

There are many theories about the nature of Time. Whether the Universe is "open" with Time indefinitely long or "closed" with a finite Time ending in a Big Crunch is a matter of ongoing debate, although the standard model of cosmology has no mechanism for ending Time.

Some cosmologists propose a "Big Rip", in which the expansion of the Universe gets out of control and it destroys itself, like a balloon being over-inflated. Space and Time are the fabric of the balloon, so it is actually they which explode into nothing.

Some cosmologists propose a cyclical "Big Bounce", in which the Universe rebounds from the Big Crunch in a new Big Bang, endlessly.

These models are all based on the idea of Time as a single dimension conforming to particular solutions, or families of solutions, of Einstein's equations of General Relativity. But maybe Time itself is more complicated than that.

Stephen Hawking proposed a mathematical model of a complex Time which leads to a closed Universe where one dimension slides around the poles like just keeping going and suddenly you find yourself heading back towards the equator, so this dimension of time is finite but unbounded. Meanwhile the time which we perceive may still be open-ended.

Roger Penrose, in some ways Hawking's heir, has proposed a cyclic cosmology in with the Universe is constantly expanding but our measuring yardsticks for space and time get periodically reset so it looks like a bounce but isn't really.

If the Multiverse is a reality, does each Universe have its own independent flow of time or do they all tick in sync?

Many other fringe ideas have been investigated.

The big problem is finding experimental evidence to distinguish between these possibilities. It is a vastly difficult task. Some has been gathered, but it all remains either inconclusive or controversial.

• It seems a bit odd to refer to Sir Roger Penrose as Hawking's heir. They were colleagues, and did some important work together on black holes, etc. But Penrose was born about a decade before Hawking (and was awarded his PhD about 8 years before Hawking. FWIW, I heard about Penrose in the early 70s, via Scientific American, but I didn't know about Hawking until the 80s. Nov 13 '20 at 11:14
• @PM2Ring I agree. "Survivor" might be more appropriate than heir, but I'd suggest that in the UK at least, Penrose seems to be inheriting the mantle of popular figurehead. Nov 13 '20 at 12:04

When you ask about a "theory" it is important that you not confuse it with a "speculation". The following is a very good definition for "theory".

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific theories, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that scientific tests should be able to provide empirical support for it, or empirical contradiction ("falsify") of it.

The following is an acceptable definition of "speculation".

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculation_(disambiguation) Speculation is the process of thinking about possibilities, or a particular conclusion arrived at from such thought.

There was a time (about a century ago) when the theory called General Relativity was born with (at the time) some ideas about how some of the possibilities might be supported by observation. One of these ideas (theories) was (at the time) a finite universe that expanded and reached a maximum size and then contracted. At the present time, there is now a lot of observed data that tells us that this possibility just cannot happen, and no ideas about how new observations will likely occur to support this idea.

On the other hand, a principle of science is that nothing is ever known with absolute certainty (except maybe mathematics). Therefore one might speculate that some time in the future some idea for a theory will come along with a conceptual possibility of observing evidence that will support the idea of a universe reaching a maximum size and then contracting. I would guess that most professional cosmologists would not expect this possibility to have any significant chance of ever happening.