2
$\begingroup$

I have a few questions about precession of Mercury and GR corrections. Feel free to any that you can:

  1. GR is used to correct precession caused by Sun on Mercury by time dilation and length contraction. Why isn’t same treatment done to gravitational tugs of other planets on Mercury? Their value of 532 arcsec per century is taken as it is and correction is only done to Sun-Mercury couple.

  2. Why does gravitational tug of other planets on Mercury valid in GR? Metric around Mercury is heavily influenced by Sun and contribution by any other planet should be negligible. Unlike in Newtonian gravity where gravity propagates without a metric.

I have a few more minor doubts but i think they will be cleared if these are cleared first.

$\endgroup$
3
$\begingroup$
  1. The GR precession angle correction for the Sun-Mercury pair is proportional to $G M_{\odot} / L$, where $M_{\odot}$ is the mass of the Sun while $L$ is the angular momentum of Mercury relative to the Sun, and it is quite small, less than an arcminute in a century. If you were to compute it inserting any Solar System mass other than that of the Sun, you would get a much smaller correction: for example, Jupiter is quite massive but $M_{\text{jup} }/ M_{\odot} \approx 10^{-3}$, and the angular momentum would also be smaller since the distance is larger. You can do the computation if you like: you will find that the corrections due to the other bodies are at least a few orders of magnitude below the main (Sun-Mercury) one.

  2. GR reduces to Newtonian gravity in the weak-field limit, which is a good approximation for the Solar System, so any Newtonian results you find in this context will be very close to the GR results. The pull of the other planets on Mercury is "negligible" in GR pretty much as much as it is in regular Newtonian mechanics: you can neglect it if you want a rough idea of the motion, while if you want to make precise predictions you need to account for it.

What this means is that, when working in the framework of GR, you can achieve different levels of precision by neglecting certain terms which are small in certain contexts. The roughest approximation to GR is Newtonian mechanics, you can then refine the estimate by considering relativistic effects ever more precisely. The problem is, the more precisely you want to consider the relativistic effects the harder it becomes in terms of calculations. For the proper, no-approximation route, in all but the simplest cases we need computers to crunch the numbers. On the other hand, Newtonian gravity is much more tractable, we know how to deal with it. So, for each interaction between two bodies we ask ourselves: how deep do we need to go? There are certain rules of thumb to tell us what needs to be considered and what does not. It turns out, for the Mercury-other planet pairs the Newtonian approximation works well, and the GR corrections would be undetectable, while for the Mercury-Sun pair the first relativistic order is small but detectable.

A plot of <span class=$GM/L$ for the two bodies." />

Here is a plot of the order magnitude of the GR correction to the motion of Mercury from the Sun and from Jupiter: you can see that the correction from Jupiter is typically three orders of magnitude smaller than the one from the Sun.

A full-GR calculation for the motion of Mercury would be unnecessarily complicated: the reasonable thing to do in this context is to figure out the margins of error on the measurements of the positions, then estimate how much any corrections will affect the result of the calculation, and neglect anything which is much smaller than the errorbars.

Even the calculation of the correction to the orbit of Mercury is an approximation: the crucial thing is, the expansion parameter (in this case it is $G M_{\odot} / L \approx 0.00016$) is small, so the next term in the expansion is unmeasurable. As we get more precise measurement devices, we will need to account for more terms.

$\endgroup$
2
  • $\begingroup$ The pull of the other planets on Mercury is "negligible" in GR pretty much as much as it is in regular Newtonian mechanics: you can neglect it if you want a rough idea of the motion No, 532" comes from other planet's pull while Sun provides only 43" precession. $\endgroup$
    – user146021
    Sep 22 '20 at 19:25
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, and it is a small correction in absolute terms - if you just want to know in which to point your telescope you can ignore it. The thing is, the pull of the planets is predicted by GR "proper", although it is not predicted by the approximation of GR which is used in order to compute the correction to the precession. I can see how this might be confusing, I'll try to clarify in an edit. $\endgroup$ Sep 22 '20 at 19:31

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.