# How can extra dimensions be small?

I have a super basic gap in my understanding of the theory of extra spacial dimensions - one piece of the explanation that never felt right.

As I've heard it, it's theorized that there may be extra dimensions out there (often talked about in connection with string theory). Those dimensions are theorized to be hidden from our every day experience, and are often described as being "tiny", "small" or "curled up".

What I don't understand is: how does being small allow an extra dimension to exist? Isn't it just small in the same 3 spacial dimensions that existed already? Is "small" just a clumsy metaphor for something that's more abstract? Would something unconnected to space like color be a better way to think about it?

Said a different way: How can extra dimensions be described in terms of existing dimensions? Small is a concept I can understand from my experience in 3 dimensions. How can I take the intuitive leap to understand why this is a useful way to think about extra dimensions?

• What I've been taught on this is the following: the "size" of a dimension is the amount of distance traveled along that dimension before returning to your starting coordinate (note: size is only well-defined under this definition for spaces with positive curvature in this direction). They have to be small because we would have experimentally been able to see them already, in various ways (e.g. modifications to field theories), if they were big. Feb 5, 2020 at 22:09
• Last 3 questions: No, No, and No. Feb 5, 2020 at 22:16
• To elaborate on what probably_someone said... If you were constantly moving through/around additional dimensions that were smaller than a proton, how would you possibly be aware of it? Feb 5, 2020 at 22:19
• Dimensions can be as small as you want, But there’s absolutely no way to physically explain more than three. Feb 6, 2020 at 23:41

"Small" means that the extra dimensions form a compact space (you can think of it as a space with finite volume). An example would be the four-dimensional space that we know and love (3 space + 1 time) plus an additional fifth dimension as a circle. This is denoted as:

$$\mathbb{R}^{3,1} \times S^1\,.$$

There are 4 coordinates $$x^{\mu=0,1,2,3}$$ plus an extra periodic coordinate $$\theta \sim \theta + 2\pi R$$. This is, of course, just an example. The constructions arising from String Theory are way more complicated.

Now the concept of big and small in this simple example refers to the size of $$R$$ in units of the typical length scales of your experiments. If $$R \ll \hbar c / E$$ (where $$E$$ is the typical energy of your favorite particle collider), then no experiment will ever be able to resolve that circle.

Another way to look at it is the following: Since the extra space is compact we can expand our fields in a Fourier series (I don't know your background, so what follows might be incomprehensible).

$$\phi(x,\theta) = \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty e^{i n \theta/ R}\, \phi_n(x)\,, \qquad \phi_{-n} \equiv \phi_n^\dagger\,.$$

And the kinetic term in the Lagrangian becomes:

$$\frac12\int_{\mathbb{R}^{3,1}} \mathrm{d}^4x\int_0^{2\pi R}\mathrm{d}\theta\,\big(\partial_\mu \phi \partial^\mu \phi + (\partial_\theta \phi )^2\big) = 2\pi R\sum_{n=0}^\infty\int_{\mathbb{R}^{3,1}}\mathrm{d}^4 x \left(\partial_\mu \phi_n^\dagger \partial^\mu \phi_n + \frac{n^2}{R^2}|\phi_n|^2\right)\,.$$

So now we are back to 4 dimensions, but we have a whole new tower of massive particles instead of just one. These are called Kaluza Klein modes. Again you see that we will never be able to probe the existence of such particles if their mass (which is proportional to their inverse radius) is much bigger than the energy of our bigger collider.

In the more general case instead of a circle you'll have a manifold with possibly more than one dimension, but the logic is the same.

• So can I say that these extra dimensions are used to mathematically describe very very small particles and interactions analogous to virtual particles in quantum physics? Feb 6, 2020 at 4:27
• It's not the paticles that are small. It's the space they live in that is small. Feb 6, 2020 at 8:17
• Thanks for the detailed answer, but I'm really looking for a more basic, intuitive explanation about how extra dimensions can be described in terms of existing dimensions. That seems to be contradictory on its face, but I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental. Feb 6, 2020 at 20:54
• What do you mean "describe [extra dimensions] in terms of existing dimensions"? You mean what are the effects that we see from a four dimensional perspective? If so the answer is the Kaluza-Klein tower of modes. Feb 6, 2020 at 20:56
• @ZECTBynmo BTW, although we can't perceive the compact dimensions directly, we can detect them indirectly. Eg, in Kaluza-Klein theory (the original theory to postulate an extra space dimension), momentum in the extra dimension is what we perceive as electric charge. Feb 7, 2020 at 0:51

Think about it this way. Suppose there's an ant crawling on a very thin, stretched wire located 100 meters from you. How would you describe the ant? You would be very much justified to say it's crawling on a 1-dimensional line and use only one coordinate to describe its position.

However, if you zoomed in, you'd see that the wire is not a 1D line - it also has a radius. That means that, strictly speaking, you need the full three coordinates x,y,z to describe the ant's motion. Two of the coordinates would barely vary regardless of where the ant is on the wire, however, a sign that they are "small".

Extrapolating from this to extra dimensions, being small allows extra dimensions to hide. If the extra dimensions are big, then we would have seen them already.

In string theory, where extra dimensions most commonly show up, these extra dimensions are in a fundamental sense really equivalent to the 3 familiar spatial dimensions: a priori, they play the same role and obey the same laws as the 'large' dimensions.

However, string theory allows one to play around with what happens to these dimensions. Although all 9 spatial dimensions are equivalent from the start, there can be solutions of the theory in which something has 'happened' to some of the dimensions. Commonly, some dimensions (usually 6 of the 9 spatial dimensions) are taken to be compact. For instance, some of them can go periodic: walking in a straight line in such a dimension will at some point bring you back to where you started. Such compact dimensions have length scales associated to them, and if that length scale is very small, the associated dimensions are not directly visible anymore to processes happening on larger length scales. For a periodic dimension, the length scale would be the distance one had to walk in order to return to one's original position. If this length is as small as the size of a proton, the periodic dimension would disappear from everyday view.

These dimensions do, however, leave an imprint on the effective lower-dimensional physics. The compact dimensions can contain a bunch of D-branes, they can have various topologies and so forth; all these influence the physics in the effectively (3+1)-dimensional world.