Flight time of spherical bullet fired horizontally versus dropped vertically / effect of crosswind on spherical car

Question

1. Would a spherical bullet fired horizontally from a musket stay aloft longer than a spherical bullet dropped from the same height?

   I know two similar questions have been asked (Will a bullet dropped and a bullet fired from a gun horizontally REALLY hit the ground at the same time when air drag is taken into account?, How can a horizontally fired bullet reach the ground the same time a dropped bullet does? ) but I want to narrow it down by making these assumptions:

   • No spin
   • Flat earth, no curvature
   • Spherical bullet

   It appears to me that the answer to my question is “yes” (and therefore the answer to the older related question is "no"), because aerodynamic force is more or less proportional to velocity squared. As the bullet starts to fall, at some given instant in time where the instantaneous velocity vector is known, if we take this velocity vector and thus compute the total aerodynamic force vector (which is purely a drag force vector; no lift is present) and then break this aerodynamic force vector into vertical and horizontal components, we get a larger vertical force component opposing downward acceleration than if we had used the same equation to calculate the aerodynamic drag force acting on an identical round ball falling straight down with the same instantaneous vertical velocity component but no forward motion. Is this correct?

   The same logic seems to shed light on why sideways winds exert much stronger sideways forces on moving cars than on parked cars, although here the situation is much more complicated because the rapidly moving car is acting somewhat like a vertical airfoil flying at an efficient angle-of-attack and creating sideways “lift”, while the parked car is more like the same airfoil in a completely “stalled” condition (due to the very high-- 90-degree-- angle-of-attack.) If the car were truly spherical, then this complication would be avoided and the situation would be just like the original question posed above. So,

2. With a spherical car, would a given crosswind (blowing perpendicular to the road) exert a greater sideways force component on the car (i.e. a force component acting perpendicular to the road) if the car was driving forward than if the car were parked?

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Let's give some numbers:

Ball falling at instantaneous speed 5 units, no forward motion, drag force is 25 units

Ball falling at instantaneous speed 5 units and moving forward at instantaneous speed 5 units, total instantaneous velocity vector magnitude 7.07 units, total drag force magnitude 50 units.

Vertical component of drag force is 50 units * sine 45 degrees = 35.4 units

Is this correct?

Answer 1

In a vacuum they would fall at the same rate. Taking air drag into account, they probably would not. The early muskets that were not rifled were highly inaccurate at longer distances because they fired a round projectile with no spin on it. Any flaw, dent, or imperfection would cause the bullet to veer off in an unexpected direction because of uneven air flow. This is why rifled barrels were more accurate, if the bullet had a flaw and had more air drag on one side, since it was spinning it would travel in a spiral or wobble, in a much more predictable projectile arc. As for a spherical car. it should have very similar side drag whether moving or not. Moving forward it would have higher pressure at the front but less pressure at the rear so total sideways force should even out.

Answer 2

I have now located a highly related answer that supports the calculation given at the end of the question, and supports the idea that the ball fired from the horizontally musket will stay aloft longer than the ball dropped from the same height, and also supports the idea that a crosswind will exert a stronger sideways force component on a spherical car that is driving forward than when the same car is parked. Here it is: Calculating wind force and drag force on a falling object

In truth the drag coefficient of a sphere cannot be considered strictly constant due to dependency of Reynolds number on speed, as pointed in another related answer Finding the drag force (Air resistance force) for accelerated ball? , but that doesn't appear to change the basic conclusion stated immediately above.