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If we assume an object (blue layer) sliding towards the right across a surface (black layer). According to Newton's 3rd Law, the frictional force would act to the left (resisting the object's relative motion).

To prevent confusion (as this could lead to one). Imagine a simple inclined plane and a box sliding down due to its own Weight, we know that the force acting on the Plane is the force component that is perpendicular to the Weight, and in accordance to Newton's 3rd law, the box would experience the same amount of force but opposite in direction (which in this case is known as the Normal Force.)

Now moving on to my main problem. The white arrows I drew are perpendicular to the surface of the tiny ridges/asperities (black layer), which also indicates these are the components of the 'pushing' force (red arrow) that would actually act on the ridges, and the pink arrows (equal in magnitude but opposite in direction) are the resistive/reaction force that the object (blue layer) would experience.

Looking back at the direction of the arrows, I notice that they are not opposite to the direction of the object's movement. At first I thought this a contradiction to what is usually told that friction acts opposite to the sliding motion, but using the inclined plane analogy, assuming the weight to be the 'pushing force' and the frictional/resistive force I drew & explained as the 'inclined plane's normal force, which aren't also opposite to each other, this makes sense and therefore Newton's law isn't violated.

Now the question is, Why do we assume the frictional force to be acting exactly opposite of the object's relative motion?

*I might be too 'microscopic' but what I think might be the reason for this is probably, when all these different-directional frictional forces for every ridges/asperinties are 'averaged', it's direction would be very close to being opposite of the object's motion. Thus for simplicity sake we all assume it to be just opposite. Can anyone verify whether this is true? And if not, please kindly correct me. Any clarification would be very helpful.

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  • $\begingroup$ Why do we assume that the friction force magnitude is proportional to the normal force magnitude? $\endgroup$ Commented May 29, 2019 at 11:49
  • $\begingroup$ I didn't say anything about the pink arrows. I'm asking you a question that you should think about. It might help you with this one. $\endgroup$ Commented May 29, 2019 at 15:38
  • $\begingroup$ According to F=u.N , they are indeed proportional. Is this enough? Or should I elaborate more (it might be too long) $\endgroup$
    – user226894
    Commented May 29, 2019 at 16:05
  • $\begingroup$ I'm not asking you because I don't know and need you to tell me. I'm asking for your benefit. Why do we use that formula? Where does it come from? The exploration of this will help you here. $\endgroup$ Commented May 29, 2019 at 21:25
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    $\begingroup$ @aditya_stack Assuming a purely horizontal force of $F=\mu N$ for kinetic friction is a very simplified model. If any object were actually moving across a bumpy/jagged surface, you would not expect the vertical force components to always cancel out as the object slides across the surface. The simplified model neglects this. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 29, 2019 at 18:55

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For most surfaces which we consider macroscopically smooth, the dominant contribution to dry friction actually comes from the adhesion between the two surfaces - a consequence of weak intermolecular bonds constantly forming and being broken. In such cases, the frictional force can be thought of as due to tiny molecular springs which stretch and therefore oppose the relative motion of the surfaces.

For bumpier materials - say, two pieces of coarse grit sandpaper sliding across one another - you're right that the force is not always exactly opposite the direction of motion. If you do the experiment, you'll see that the top piece of sandpaper receives random little upward "kicks" as the mountains and valleys slip over one another.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for the answer. One more thing I'll ask is. Is the adhesion between those 2 surfaces still present when the object is at motion, I read an article saying that it'll not have as much effect as the asperities wouldn't have enough time to create those weak intermolecular bonds. Doesn't this mean, at motion, there will be more non-parallel frictional forces acting on the object? $\endgroup$
    – user226894
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It's largely a matter of definition. The contact force between two surfaces is usually neither parallel nor normal to the surfaces. But it is convenient to resolve the force into a normal component and a component – that we call friction – parallel to the surfaces. I see no reason why this shouldn't apply on a microscopic level.

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