# Inertial and non-inertial frame

How to define an inertial frame of reference mathematically? I want a definition with proper chosen coordinate axis which will help me to differentiate it with the non inertial ones. I have been trying to find out what are the invariants in those with constant velocity or rest frames.

In classical mechanics an inertial frame is by definition a reference frame where the law of inertia is valid. It's a physical definition. You can then mathematically find an infinite number of reference frames requiring that inertial reference frames are frames that move with constant velocity with respect to an inertial one. So, you discover a frame is inertial with experiments, be them real or thought experiments.

• I never liked that definition, is seems to me that it is a circular definition. In which frame are Newtonian laws valid? In an inertial one. What is an inertial frame? Well, the one where Newtonian lows are valid... – F. Jatpil Nov 16 '18 at 11:22
• @F.Jatpil You state a physical law, you see It's valid only on a subset of all the possible frames so you give a name to those frames calling them inertial. Doesn't seem circular to me. – Run like hell Nov 16 '18 at 11:26
• I admit, you are formally right. Still, you need some frame to begin with when formulating Newtonian laws... you start formulating Newtonian laws "by random", "ignoring" frame and then look for fitting frames?... Certainly that was not case in the history. There was an intuitive feeling for existence of an inertial frame when the laws were postulated, not only afterwards.. Laws do not "precede" frames. – F. Jatpil Nov 16 '18 at 11:40
• Let me allow a new edit: I give you positions and speeds of objects in some frame F. I give you Newtonian laws. I ask you about future evolution. I need to provide you with a new and independent information "F is inertial" for you to be able to fulfill the task. If I do not provide this information you cannot solve the task. The "bodies" from the task cannot be used for testing the reference frame. You cannot do both: use Newtonian laws for 1) defining inertial frame and 2) predicting the future. – F. Jatpil Nov 16 '18 at 11:52
• @F.Jatpil of course laws don't precede frames, you can formulate the law saying that there exist frames where some laws hold and call them inertial. About the second comment: yes you need to add the info that the frame is inertial, but that's a property of the frame not of problem. You can find out that the frame is inertial independently from your problem, eliminating every force and checking if the law of inertia holds, then you tackle any problem you want with this knowledge and can predict the future in this way. You check once that you're in an inertial frame and then work always there – Run like hell Nov 16 '18 at 12:41

This issue is addressed in the book 'Gravitation', by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler.

Paragraph 12.3

Point of principle: how can one write down the laws of gravity and properties of spacetime in Galilean coordinates first (par. 12.1), and only afterwards (here) com to grip with the nature of the coordinate system and its nonuniqueness? Answer: (a quotation from par. 3.1, slightly modified): "Here and elsewhere in science, as emphasized not least by Henri Poincaré, that view is out of date which used to say 'Define your terms before you proceed.' All the laws and theories of physics, including Newton's laws of gravity, have this deep and subtle character, that they both define the concepts they use (here Galilean coordinates) and make statements about these concepts."

The discussion in section 3.1 of the book goes as follows:

All the laws and theories of physics, including the Lorentz force law, have this deep and subtle character, that they both define the concepts they use (here B and E) and make statements about these concepts. Contrariwise, the absence of some body of theory, law, and principle deprives one of the means properly to define or even use concepts.

Any forward step in human knowledge is creative in this sense: that theory, concept, law, and method of measurement - forever inseparable - are born into the world in union.

So: according to MTW, and I think their point of view is very convincing, every theory and law serves both to make statements about concepts, and as operational definition of those concepts.

And yeah, superficially that looks similar to circular reasoning.
The difference, of course, is that once we get to applied physics we have a test. You design a machine or a process, and when the design performs the way your physical laws predict then you know you are on solid ground. Example: we launch probes to other planets in our solar system; their motion matches our physical laws.

(Incidentally, that does raise the question: how about a discipline that is not in a position to apply any of its theories in the form of a device or a process? Yeah, I think in that situation it is possible to produce circular reasoning.)

I believe there is no honest "mathematical" definition of an inertial frame. I heard two definitions in my life:

1) A frame centered at Sun with axis pointing to distant objects in the Universe.

2) A frame where Newtonian laws are valid.


I believe the second one is definition in "circle" : In which frame are Newtonian laws valid? In an inertial one. What is an inertial frame? Well, the one where Newtonian lows are valid...

The first one is not "mathematical". Yet, my personal preference is the first one, but I would modify it:

An inertial reference frame is that one of Cosmic microwave background or one moving with constant speed vector to it...

How to define an inertial frame of reference mathematically?

The definition of an inertial is physical, not mathematical. However, you can easily recognize and identify them mathematically.

An inertial frame has a metric of the form $$ds^2=-c^2 dt^2+dx^2+dy^2+dz^2$$ A metric of any other form indicates a non inertial frame. A second way to identify an inertial frame mathematically is that all of the Christoffel symbols vanish everywhere.

Inertial frame can be defined as frame where the time derivative of basis vectors relative to another inertial frame is constant.

For example, Suppose an inertial frame O, if we want to know if O' is inertial or not we can say that, O' with basis vectors $$$$,

$$d/dt=0$$

If inertial frame O, measures this we can say that, that frame (O') is inertial. If the result is non-zero then O' is definitly non-inertial.