1
$\begingroup$

So I have this long standing problem. I know that the wave equation (with or without source term) changes form when one makes a Galilean transformation of coordinates. My question is about the physical meaning of this fact: is it correct to say that the phenomenon which appeared as a wave in the original coordinates is not a wave anymore? Since it satisfies a different equation I have been tempted to say so, but I am still not convinced Since the everyday Experience does not adapt well to this view. I know there's something I'm missing, Maybe is stupid but I would like to have somebody else's opinion on this!

$\endgroup$
2

2 Answers 2

2
$\begingroup$

This should possibly be a comment, but the speed of light will no longer be invariant after the transformation, it's as straightforward as that.

Try the transform yourself and see.

$\endgroup$
2
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your answer but that is not my problem...I am talking about the General wave equation, not necessarily concerning EM waves $\endgroup$
    – user199710
    Commented Jul 3, 2018 at 12:27
  • $\begingroup$ Force of habit on my part sorry, $\endgroup$
    – user198207
    Commented Jul 3, 2018 at 12:51
1
$\begingroup$

The thing is just as Countto pointed out. The wave equation in one dimension without sources for speed $c$ is $$\frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial^2\phi}{\partial t^2}-\frac{\partial^2\phi}{\partial x^2}=0.$$

This has solutions of the form

$$\phi(x,t)=\psi_+(x-ct)+\psi_-(x+ct).$$

The first term is a wave propagating with velocity $+c$, and the second one with $-c$. The Galilean transformation is $$t'=t$$$$x'=x-vt$$ Which transforms our solution to $$\phi(x',t')=\psi_+(x'-(c-v)t')+\psi_-(x'+(c+v)t'),$$ Which is still a superposition of two waves. These waves however have different velocities, $c-v$ and $-(c+v)$.

$\endgroup$
5
  • $\begingroup$ You said "is still a superposition of Two waves" but having them different velpcities, would Φ still be a wave? A superposition of waves of different velpcities does not satisfy any kind of wave equation am I right? $\endgroup$
    – user199710
    Commented Jul 3, 2018 at 13:51
  • $\begingroup$ Which is the meaning of the fact that the D'Alambert operator is not invariant under galilean transformation i Think, that is what I am trying to understand $\endgroup$
    – user199710
    Commented Jul 3, 2018 at 13:52
  • $\begingroup$ There is a loop in which I Think I'm stuck, and it could be the definition of what a wave is... If you take by definition "function which satisfies the wave equation" this implies that waves of different velpcities cannot be summed in A meaningful way, since the wave equation has only one parameter in it! $\endgroup$
    – user199710
    Commented Jul 3, 2018 at 13:57
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ Hello, sorry for not paying attention for two months! A "wave" can definitely be defined as you've mentioned, but in an intuitive sense, it's a perturbation that transfers energy over some distance without an average displacement of the medium. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 13, 2018 at 11:02
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ So yeah, in both the senses we've discussed here, that final superposition is not a wave in a rigorous sense. It doesn't satisfy a wave equation, and the medium has an average motion (with speed $v$). $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 13, 2018 at 11:04

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.