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Hey all. I have this problem with the above figure. The lengths of the three sides are $AB=a, AG=b, GB=c$. Also, P,Q,R are forces perpendicular to each side as you can see and P,Q,R are their magnitudes.. Considering the stress field homogeneous and that $t$ is the thickness, I need to identify the stress tensor.

What I've done is to take the normal unit vectors of sides AG and AB, which are $$\mathbfη_{AG} = (-1,0), \mathbfη_{AB}=(0,-1)$$ We know that $$\boldsymbol{t} = σ\cdot \mathbf{n} (1)$$ where $\mathbfσ$ is the stress tensor and $\mathbf n$ is the unit vector normal to the side.

In AG side we have that $\mathbfσ_{ΑG}=\mathbf{R}/A=-{R}/bt \mathbf i$ and in AB we have that $\mathbfσ_{ΑB}=\mathbf{Q}/A=-{Q}/at \mathbf j$. By $\mathbf σ$ here I mean the traction vector.

So from (1) we have that, for $η_{AG}$ $$\boldsymbol{t}=\sigma\boldsymbol{n} = \left(\begin{array}{ccc} σ_{xx} & σ_{xy}\\ σ_{yx} & σ_{yy} \end{array}\right) \left(\begin{array}{c} -1\\ 0\\\end{array}\right)= \left(\begin{array}{c} -R/bt\\ 0\end{array}\right).$$

Which shows us that $σ_{xx}=R/bt$ and that $σ_{yx}=0$. Similarly for the other unit vector we get that $σ_{yy}=Q/at$ and $σ_{xy}=0$.

My question is : The solution of this problem that I have, doesn't take the $σ_{xy}$ as 0. It proceeds and finds it as non zero using the same technique with the 3rd side of our triangle. Can you explain to me why it's not $0$ even though we just found that $σ_{xy}=σ_{yx}=0$?

Sorry for any mistakes, English is not my main language. In the figure, whereever you see $Γ$ it's $G$, $Δ$ is $D$. Thanks in advance.

EDIT : I'm gonna add what the solution does in order to get the value for $σ_{xy}$. The normal unit vector of GB is $$\mathbfη_{GB}=(sinθ,cosθ)=(b/c , a/c)$$ where $θ$ is the angle between the sides AB and BG. The traction vector of BG side can be written as $$\mathbfσ_{BG}=(Pb/c^2 t)\mathbf i + (Pa/c^2 t)\mathbf j$$ Now we do the following one more time $$\boldsymbol{t} = σ\cdot \mathbf{n}$$ and we get $$ \left(\begin{array}{ccc} R/bt & σ_{xy}\\ σ_{yx} & Q/at \end{array}\right) \left(\begin{array}{c} b/c\\ a/c\\\end{array}\right)= \left(\begin{array}{c} Pb/c^2 t\\ Pa/c^2 t\end{array}\right)$$

From here, if you continue you'll get that $$σ_{xy} = \frac{P}{ct}-\frac{R+Q}{t(a+b)}$$ Is this wrong somehow?

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  • $\begingroup$ The forces R, Q, and P all have to balance out in equilibrium, which means that they can't exert any net torque or net force on the triangle. If the forces acting on the three sides of the triangle are all required to be normal to their sides, it seems to me that the stress field has to be a hydrostatic one. So based on my understanding of your diagram and description, it appears that $\sigma_{xx}=\sigma_{yy}$ and $\sigma_{xy}=\sigma_{yx}=0$. $\endgroup$
    – user93237
    Commented Jun 6, 2018 at 21:21
  • $\begingroup$ Do you have any idea why the solution I have is doing the same thing with the unit normal of BG side like I did with the other sides and it gets a non zero $σ_{x,y}$? I'm just very confused because in what I did we got that it is 0 and the solution just ignores it $\endgroup$
    – thenac
    Commented Jun 6, 2018 at 21:53

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I get $\sigma_{xx}=R/(lt\cos{\omega})$and $\sigma_{yy}=Q/(lt\sin{\omega})$, where l is the length of GB. I also get $P\cos{\omega}=R$ and $P\sin{\omega}=Q$. From this, it immediately follows that $$\sigma_{xx}=\sigma_{yy}=\frac{P}{lt}$$ That is, the state of stress in the material is isotropic. Of course, we should immediately have realized this because the only way the traction on the arbitrary side of the prism could be orthogonal to the side, while, at the same time, the tractions on the faces of constant x and y are normal to those faces, is if the stress tensor is isotropic.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for the answer. We have the same results for $σ_{xx}$ and $σ_{xy}$. What can you tell me about the shear stress though ? Is it 0? If it is do you know the solution I have proceeds and finds a non zero value for it ? The exact value it gives is $σ_{xy}=\frac{P}{ct}-\frac{R+Q}{t(a+b)}$, where a,b,c are the lengths of the sides and t the thickness. Any idea if this is right or wrong? $\endgroup$
    – thenac
    Commented Jun 7, 2018 at 1:28
  • $\begingroup$ If Q and R are normal to their faces, then $\sigma_{ xy} $ must be zero. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 7, 2018 at 2:17
  • $\begingroup$ I've edited my post to show you how the solution continues. Can you please check it and tell me why it's wrong? Thank you very much $\endgroup$
    – thenac
    Commented Jun 7, 2018 at 9:56
  • $\begingroup$ I don't see where that final equation comes from. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 7, 2018 at 12:00
  • $\begingroup$ You have 2 equations. The first is $(R/bt)(b/c) + σ_{xy}(a/c)=Pb/c^2 t$ and the second is $σ_{yx}(b/c) + (Q/at)(a/c)=Pa/c^2 t$. If you add make some simplifications and add them, you get the equation $σ_{xy} = \frac{P}{ct}-\frac{R+Q}{t(a+b)}$. $\endgroup$
    – thenac
    Commented Jun 7, 2018 at 12:46

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