What I know (and please correct me if I'm stating malarkey): the entropy of the universe (its description) is contained in Weyl tensor. Einstein's field equations don't directly relate the entropy with the universe and its curvature/geometry. We can obtain Weyl tensor by contracting the Riemann tensor which in $4$D has only $20$ independent components (and Ricci tensor has $10$).

In Cosmology, to describe the evolution of the Universe, Einstein equations are not enough (indeed we need Friedmann Equations too and else), hence to understand the evolution what we do is to look at the independent components of the Weyl tensor.

But when one comes to deal with Big Bang, then Weyl tensor vanishes, whereas they become larger and larger the more the Universe expands. This could be the explanation of why the entropy does always increase (at least without starting to run exotic physics and so on).

Now, the Universe is not a closed system, and it cannot be described by usual Thermodynamics because it has no volume and no temperature, and we cannot run experiments in the thermodynamics sense to study it in that way. Hence to speak about Entropy in the Clausius sense we need to consider it as a sum of portions (read: closed systems) and look at the interactions in the neighborhood.

Question: What happens to the curvature of the Universe if the Entropy of the universe wouldn't conserve? Is the increasing / conservation / non-conservation of the Entropy, related to something like the the energy density of the Universe? Maybe it would be comparable to the critical energy density?

  • $\begingroup$ i'd suggest you pick one of those 3 questions. otherwise by definition its too broad and should be closed $\endgroup$ – Alex Robinson Mar 19 '18 at 11:02
  • $\begingroup$ Actually, Q2 (v1) looks to be off-topic as a hypothetical "what if" question. $\endgroup$ – Kyle Kanos Mar 19 '18 at 11:12
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    $\begingroup$ Friedman's equations are derived from Einstein equation with FRW metric plus perfect fluid stress-energy tensor $T^{\mu\nu}$. And the entropy density of the universe $s$ is related to the energy density $\rho$ and pressure $p$ as $s=(\rho+p)/T$. @VonNeumann $\endgroup$ – SRS Mar 19 '18 at 11:28
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    $\begingroup$ @SRS - but that is the entropy of the matter contents, not the Weyl spacetime entropy. The question is somewhat confusingly expressed since it seems to say that the spacetime entropy is all there is, but maybe we can ignore the matter contribution. $\endgroup$ – Anders Sandberg Mar 19 '18 at 12:09
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    $\begingroup$ the entropy of the universe (its description) is contained in Weyl tensor This seems a little garbled to me. A universe with maximal entropy would probably be something like the "mixmaster" spacetimes, with most of the energy and entropy locked up in gravitational waves. In that scenario, I suppose it's true that the Weyl tensor would contain all the information necessary to get the main contribution to the entropy. But our actual universe looks nothing like this. For reasons that AFAIK are not understood, the early universe did not have the gravitational d.f. activated thermodynamically. $\endgroup$ – Ben Crowell Apr 2 '19 at 15:31

I'm not sure why you are mentioning the Weyl tensor in the context of FRW-cosmology. The Weyl tensor describes the curvature for vacuum solutions of the Einstein field equations (where the energy-stress tensor vanishes), e.g. the Schwarzschild solution.

As to the entropy of the universe, it is dominated by the huge number of photons. There are way more photons than baryons. Nevertheless the energy density of the photon bath is negligible compared the the matter density and thus not "comparable to the critical density".


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